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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Was he or was he not still in control of two-ton truck with which he had previously attacked the police?
    In the pic it looks to me like the truck was pretty much done in and not going anywhere.

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Total overstatement.

    If this had been college kids using their vehicles to try to stop someone racing thru campus ramming the truck - and when the truck rammed back one of those kids jumped out and shot that driver firing 8 rounds, we know the same members saying the police acted correctly would instead be screaming "Vigilante!!!" "Murder!" "Endangering others by shooting on campus!!!" "Just as bad for driving just as fast chasing him!!!!" and demand he go to prison for life for murder.

    How vastly, vastly important a police officer's life has become in relation to the rest of us. At least they should write separate penal codes for police and government employees and another for the people who aren't in government to clarify. Maybe amend the constitution for two different sets of Bill of Rights too.
    no overstatement
    no excessive response - given the circumstances
    watch the video
    the driver, who had previously ramed a cop car, puts the truck in reverse toward the two standing cops
    immediately prior to being killed by one of them

    but you wear a badge, so you certainly can opt to remain standing while the perp runs over you with the rear end of the stolen truck
    when that happens, we can compare video responses
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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Such a hateful, hateful post. Sure, the dad was stupid to call the cops just to teach his son a lesson. However, the dad doesn't deserve to have his son shot to death as you believe. Come on man. Get a friggin grip on reality.
    I don't think either the father or the son deserved what they got, and yeah, maybe I should have been more sensitive in my phrasing. But what they did-- each of them-- was stupid, incredibly stupid, and the son's death was a direct consequence of their stupidity. Instead of "looking for answers" from the police, who only did their job and only killed his son because he was endangering them (and others), he should be wondering what the hell was wrong with his son to make him behave in that fashion.

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead

    So basically they shoot an unarmed kid because he won't cut the truck off? This is overkill. Thus proving you cannot trust a government official with a deadly weapon. We can't even trust then with microphones. Maybe we SHOULD disarm police and only allow specially trained officers carry like in the UK. They can't stop shooting people.

    Another case to add to the growing number of such cases all across the country. Abuse of power by local and state agencies is growing by leaps and bounds...

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I don't see acceptance of it - I see a growing concern and mistrust of our law enforcement.
    I'm not putting this on people.



    Well - I've seen a lot of chases end without the shooting and death of the un-armed driver, so I know it's possible to disable a vehicle and arrest the suspect. So, yet again, that doesn't fly for
    me.
    Bingo!!!! They made a stupid ass decision. Why not shoot tires first? Especially on grass? Traction. Hello? I don't think they wanted to kill him, but then again...why are they shooting "at the engine block?" And why leave the safety of a vehicle when the suspect vehicle isn't disabled? Seems that the SMART call would be boxing him in. Once he hit the grass it was game over. That truck had way too many cops nearby to get away.
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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    He pushed himself into a death sentence.
    Yes. A low speed collision that doesn't jeopardize the targets life...warrants being shot to death. One could make a case for the endangerment of others while in the midst of a chase, but I maintain that cop would have greater risk playing bumper cars while wrapped in bubble wrap.
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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I don't think either the father or the son deserved what they got, and yeah, maybe I should have been more sensitive in my phrasing. But what they did-- each of them-- was stupid, incredibly stupid, and the son's death was a direct consequence of their stupidity. Instead of "looking for answers" from the police, who only did their job and only killed his son because he was endangering them (and others), he should be wondering what the hell was wrong with his son to make him behave in that fashion.
    Oh, I agree with you that it was stupid. Most definitely. I just hate to think a father lost his son due to his own stupidity.....and now has to live with it. That would be awful. Thanks for your post though.
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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Actions have consequences. Trying to teach your son a lesson by cop is highlighted here. The kid refused to turn off the truck....well that truck is still a weapon. If you go up to it and he backs into you he could kill you, or maim you, or even just cause minor injuries. I see people saying it would be slow and would certainly caused minor injuries....clearly these people have never floored the accelerator...especially in a truck with a decent motor. So that assertion is clearly wrong. However think of it this way...the cops didn't know this was father/son teaching by cops....they thought they we're chasing an armed suspect in a grand theft auto incident who actively evaded the police. I blame the Father more than anyone else for his abuse of the 911 system.


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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, and if just one innocent (or the officer) had been harmed or killed by your inability to react to a judgement deficient young man with a 4300 lb weapon your career in law enforcement should be over.
    There is no duty for any police officer to ever shoot anyone. Name any time any law enforcement officer - ever - anywhere -was fired for NOT shooting someone.

    Curious how I think we should have equal legal status and you think I have 100 times more rights than you.

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by Constantine View Post
    Actions have consequences. Trying to teach your son a lesson by cop is highlighted here. The kid refused to turn off the truck....well that truck is still a weapon. If you go up to it and he backs into you he could kill you, or maim you, or even just cause minor injuries. I see people saying it would be slow and would certainly caused minor injuries....clearly these people have never floored the accelerator...especially in a truck with a decent motor. So that assertion is clearly wrong. However think of it this way...the cops didn't know this was father/son teaching by cops....they thought they we're chasing an armed suspect in a grand theft auto incident who actively evaded the police. I blame the Father more than anyone else for his abuse of the 911 system.
    It is outrageous to blame the father. For what? For reporting his son stole his employer's truck?

    OH, that's right, in YOUR opinion it is perfectly legal to steal vehicles, provided you are an adult and steal the keys to that vehicle from a relative. You found the PERFECT way to legally steal vehicles. Just make sure you steal a company's vehicle by stealing the eyes from one of the employees. THAT - in your opinion - then makes it ok.

    The police knew this was NOT an armed suspect in grand theft auto. MAYBE, just MAYBE, you should listen to dispatch and to the call to the police.

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