People use 1-sided slogans on these topics. If ramming a vehicle with another vehicle constitutes "attempted murder," then at that point the guy had no choice but to continue to try to get away with 2 officers trying to kill him. In fact, he was not trying to kill cops and cops were not trying to kill him in the slow speed vehicle collisions.
If his backing the trailer or truck into a police car at all of 5 mph constituted trying to kill the officers, then the officers hitting the truck constituted trying to kill him. But that isn't what it was for either. For him it was trying to get away. For them it was trying to stop him. Nothing more or less than that. None of it even set off airbags - that police cars have half a dozen of.
There is stupid on every side of this story.
Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.
All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
But, then, so were the police in the chase, right? In fact, dispatch or whoever was on the police radio repeatedly pointed that out to the pursuing officers - specifically danger to pedestrians by the police cars. Specifically given pedestrians as reason to "back off" the chase due to "pedestrians in the area."
This is the problem with police chases. The guy was not armed. NOTHING indicated his goal was to harm anyone. They knew who he was. They knew whose truck and why he took it. How did police cars racing thru campus make this safer for "bystanders?"
No, they do the Pit, the Box and ram. I live in New Zealand and we get shows from the USA, the UK, Australia and local shows all the time and I see them do it in every country. ...And for good or bad I watch a LOT of these shows.Have to say I've never seen them do that on ANY COPS shows from ANY country. You may be confusing that with a box maneuver.
You don't have to be a dick... as an ex-fire fighter I understand the difference. I only said it was ironic, not that it wasn't right.Yep, the rules are different for those committing the crimes and those enforcing the laws. Welcome to reality. Guess what, the rules are different for fire fighters than they are for arsonists.
An officer tells someone "you're under arrest, turn around." The person answers, "Why?! What law did I break?" Now it's also "resisting arrest" and if the person's friend says "what are you arresting him/her for?," that person has committed "interfering with a police officer." And for many police a person tying to prevent being further beaten by blocking blows with their arms constitutes "assaulting a police officer" too.
Last edited by joko104; 11-08-13 at 05:15 PM.
Or the fella in Oklahoma who got a life sentence for spitting on a police officer. But, in Oklahoma, if a police officer all but beats someone to death he MIGHT lose his job at the worse.