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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Food and Drug Administration is exploring a nationwide ban of trans fats in food. Removing trans fats from the "generally recognized as safe" list - a list that includes salt, sugar, and other typical substances - would be an incredible step for the FDA.



    The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday took a first step toward potentially eliminating most trans fat from the food supply, saying it has made a preliminary determination that a major source of trans fats -- partially hydrogenated oils -- is no longer "generally recognized as safe."

    While food manufacturers and restaurants have voluntarily lowered the trans-fats in the last ten years, that's not enough for the FDA and other food nannies. Some of the common foods affected will be donuts, crackers, popcorn, frozen pizza, creamers, and canned frosting.

    CNN notes that the Center for Science in the Public Interest has been pushing a campaign to get the FDA to prohibit trans fats for a long time now. This is a strange twist - CSPI was one of the groups that, in the 1980s, pushed American consumers to substitute trans fats in their diet for saturated fats.

    FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban - Kevin Glass


    Say it isn't so, your kidding me? What do you think about this? Shouldn't people regulate their own diets? What do you think this will do to the restaurant and food manufacturers?
    ....but you can still buy a pack of smokes... interesting how the FDA picks and chooses what is unsafe....

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    I can't seem to find anything in the Constitution that supports this either. Don't get me wrong, I don't think eliminating trans fats from our diets is a bad thing, I just don't see it as a responsibility of the federal government. Of course some of our "living document" folks might disagree and consider it a national defense issue, what it really is is the result of government mandated health care control and the soft drink experiment in NYC. Where I would draw the line is when the government tells me I can no longer raise and process my own food because they don't like the content. It has already been tried and will come up again.

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The hell I don't. If our collective tax contributions go toward their health care then our society has every right in the world to force people to be healthier.

    The only way you can say they have the right to eat themselves to death is if they have to pay for every dime of their own healthcare.
    You don't. No more than you have a right to tell people what political affiliation they should follow. After all..your tax dollars goes towards those people to. My tax dollars are spent on you also. Does that mean I get to tell you what you can and cannot do or eat or vote? The whole "my tax dollars!" yadda yadda yadda is bunch of crock.
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    ...'To Promote the General Welfare ...'
    Does not mean what you think it means and has never been upheld by SCOTUS as such.

    This is the second time someone has posted this. It is also why I firmly believe why this country is such a mess. People don't know what the words in the Constitution actually mean, say, and talk about. They don't know its history beyond the general outline of "some dudes wrote a founding document called "the constitution of the united states of america duude!".

    The United States Constitution contains two references to "the General Welfare", one occurring in the Preamble and the other in the Taxing and Spending Clause. The U.S. Supreme Court has held the mention of the clause in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution "has never been regarded as the source of any substantive power conferred on the Government of the United States or on any of its Departments."[2][3]

    Moreover, the Supreme Court held the understanding of the General Welfare Clause contained in the Taxing and Spending Clause adheres to the construction given it by Associate Justice Joseph Story in his 1833 Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States.[4][5] Justice Story concluded that the General Welfare Clause is not a grant of general legislative power,[4][6] but a qualification on the taxing power[4][7][8] which includes within it a federal power to spend federal revenues on matters of general interest to the federal government.[4][9][10] The Court described Justice Story's view as the "Hamiltonian position",[4] as Alexander Hamilton had elaborated his view of the taxing and spending powers in his 1791 Report on Manufactures. Story, however, attributes the position's initial appearance to Thomas Jefferson, in his Opinion on the Bank of the United States.[11]

    As such, these clauses in the U.S. Constitution are an atypical use of a general welfare clause, and are not considered grants of a general legislative power to the federal government.[12]
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    If they ban trans fats I will just fry my twinkies in lard--it is organic.

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How many studies have you read regarding the health effects of trans fats and/or safe dosages of literally anything in your food?
    Actually quite a few.

    You seem to not understand my point. It's not that trans fat is good, it's the infringement, once again, of people's rights to make their own choices based on information provided to them.

    Education is the key... not the government making the choices for you.
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The hell I don't. If our collective tax contributions go toward their health care then our society has every right in the world to force people to be healthier.

    The only way you can say they have the right to eat themselves to death is if they have to pay for every dime of their own healthcare.
    When will you start forcing people to jog I wonder?

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