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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I hear ya. My beliefs and ideals agree with you - I hate nanny states and I believe in personal freedom. But my eyes and ears say you're wrong - the country is full of fat asses.

    You want people to be able to take care of themselves, but some people will literally eat themselves to death because they can't tolerate the mild discomfort of being a little bit hungry, and they can't be bothered to do any physical exercise.

    What are you gonna do about people like that?
    Nothing. Its called freedom. They have a right to eat themselve to death. You do not have a right to make them not do so.
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Food and Drug Administration is exploring a nationwide ban of trans fats in food. Removing trans fats from the "generally recognized as safe" list - a list that includes salt, sugar, and other typical substances - would be an incredible step for the FDA.



    The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday took a first step toward potentially eliminating most trans fat from the food supply, saying it has made a preliminary determination that a major source of trans fats -- partially hydrogenated oils -- is no longer "generally recognized as safe."

    While food manufacturers and restaurants have voluntarily lowered the trans-fats in the last ten years, that's not enough for the FDA and other food nannies. Some of the common foods affected will be donuts, crackers, popcorn, frozen pizza, creamers, and canned frosting.

    CNN notes that the Center for Science in the Public Interest has been pushing a campaign to get the FDA to prohibit trans fats for a long time now. This is a strange twist - CSPI was one of the groups that, in the 1980s, pushed American consumers to substitute trans fats in their diet for saturated fats.

    FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban - Kevin Glass


    Say it isn't so, your kidding me? What do you think about this? Shouldn't people regulate their own diets? What do you think this will do to the restaurant and food manufacturers?
    Well, now that you have fascist healthcare (combining government power with corporate interests); your bad health decisions adds costs to everyone else, so of course the government can now dictate what you eat.

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    This sort of thing has nothing to do with food, it's about government control of every aspect of your life. That is the trend of Liberalism/Socialism in our once beautiful country.

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Nothing. Its called freedom. They have a right to eat themselve to death. You do not have a right to make them not do so.
    The hell I don't. If our collective tax contributions go toward their health care then our society has every right in the world to force people to be healthier.

    The only way you can say they have the right to eat themselves to death is if they have to pay for every dime of their own healthcare.

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    so if there is somthing [sic] in the constitution where it says people have to eat waffles for breakfest [sic] on the 2nd day of every odd numbered month, would you follow that provision to the letter?
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    that was not the point i was arguing.

    if the Constitution of the united states had some pointless provision that says members of congress cannot wear Harlequin colored outfits, does the congress have to follow that provision without question like religious doctrine.
    The Constitution is the highest law of the land.

    If, somehow, an Amendment were properly ratified into it that imposed some silly new rule, as you suggest, then yes, we would all be obligated to obey that rule.

    But as hypotheticals go, this is an exceptionally ridiculous one. There is no such provision in the Constitution, nor do I think would anyone think that there is any plausible chance of ever getting an amendment ratified to add such a provision. It's pointless to make the argument that you seem to be trying to make, based on a hypothetical “what if” about the Constitution containing a sort of provision that it does not, and never will contain.
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Out of curiosity but...where exactly in the Constitution does it allow the government to dictate what people can or cannot eat?
    ...'To Promote the General Welfare ...'

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I have no problem with this. Americans are too fat. If it's gonna take a nanny state to whip us in to shape, so be it.
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    If it takes an FDA ban to get the ball rolling, so be it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I hear ya. My beliefs and ideals agree with you - I hate nanny states and I believe in personal freedom.
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The hell I don't. If our collective tax contributions go toward their health care then our society has every right in the world to force people to be healthier.
    In other words, one outrageous abuse of government power is now to be an excuse and a justification for another outrageous abuse of government power.
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    In other words, one outrageous abuse of government power is now to be an excuse and a justification for another outrageous abuse of government power.
    Let me put it this way. If we go mountain climbing and we're clipped or tethered together, it's then in my interest to make sure you don't slip and fall. If you do, you're gonna drag my ass down with you.

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm going to agree with you once in my life, except the glow in the dark part.
    Hey I just said that cause of this...

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