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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    For the sake of simplicity and this specific thread; if we are talking about artificial trans fats being added to foods then yes, there really is no safe limit, so best to be rid.

    To support a ban I would have to see that the wording would not simultaneously ban burgers because there are some natural (re: good) trans fats in them, but in principle, I agree for the artificially created stuff.
    There is no proposal that would ban naturally occuring trans fats. None.

    In fact, if there was, you'd have to ban beef. I'm pretty sure you'd hear some outrage about that...
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Say it isn't so, your kidding me? What do you think about this? Shouldn't people regulate their own diets? What do you think this will do to the restaurant and food manufacturers?
    I don't think they'll be able to do it, but I wouldn't be opposed to measures in regulating such substances. It's no different than banning crack, except in the case of artificially added trans fats, nearly everybody is consuming that garbage. That's a pretty big problem, since a third of our population is obese, and that number is rising. Something has to be done about it, because people apparently can't regulate their own diets.
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    That's the point. The federal government was never intended to micromanage the activities of its citizens and the Constitution certainly contains nothing directing citizen activities...
    Banning dangerous substances in our food? BIG GOVERNMENT!
    Allowing dangerous substances in our food? FREEDOM!

    I swear, only in 21st-century America are things such as funding our schools, maintaining our highways, and keeping harmful substances out of our food political issues.
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I swear, only in 21st-century America are things such as funding our schools, maintaining our highways, and keeping harmful substances out of our food political issues.
    Nah, **** was just as stupid in 20th century America.
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    A cake is unhealthy; a cake dosed with arsenic (as example) is unsafe.
    How about a cake with a tiny amount of arsenic? Low enough to not be an immediate threat but prolonged exposure over the course of your life can cause serious health issues?
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Hiya RC. I think they can.....also if they do. They might not last as long in a grocery tho. Which I wouldn't see that as a problem.
    Idk about you, but my saturated fats taste pretty awesome.

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How about a cake with a tiny amount of arsenic? Low enough to not be an immediate threat but prolonged exposure over the course of your life can cause serious health issues?
    Well; hate to break it to you, but companies are allowed to put what is effectively toxic waste in small amounts in your food with no problem... FDA approved, you'd have to look up the msds sheet for all those ingredients that you would need to be a chemist to read. There's also the "GRAS" standard, which states that if something was not considered toxic in the 50's (back when doctors would give cigarettes for sore throat) AND there has not been study showing otherwise; then it is "generally regarded as safe".

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Well; hate to break it to you, but companies are allowed to put what is effectively toxic waste in small amounts in your food with no problem... FDA approved, you'd have to look up the msds sheet for all those ingredients that you would need to be a chemist to read. There's also the "GRAS" standard, which states that if something was not considered toxic in the 50's (back when doctors would give cigarettes for sore throat) AND there has not been study showing otherwise; then it is "generally regarded as safe".
    Right. And the current issue regards removing trans fats from the GRAS list.

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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Well; hate to break it to you, but companies are allowed to put what is effectively toxic waste in small amounts in your food with no problem... FDA approved, you'd have to look up the msds sheet for all those ingredients that you would need to be a chemist to read. There's also the "GRAS" standard, which states that if something was not considered toxic in the 50's (back when doctors would give cigarettes for sore throat) AND there has not been study showing otherwise; then it is "generally regarded as safe".
    Not entirely true. Food products are allowed to contain substances that are harmful, but they're not necessarily allowed to add them to food.

    And I'm pretty sure that arsenic has always been considered toxic
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    Re: FDA Proposes Trans Fat Ban.....

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Not entirely true. Food products are allowed to contain substances that are harmful, but they're not necessarily allowed to add them to food.

    And I'm pretty sure that arsenic has always been considered toxic
    It's not a short bit of homework, but the GRAS list is available online, as is msds information and other details about each item on that list. (I first found out about GRAS after working at a McDonald's in my youth and trying to sort out myths from realities of their food).

    And yes, if it's on the GRAS list, even of the material is produced as a byproduct of industry, it can be added to food in small quantities.... Typically labelled as "preservatives".

    Arsenic is not on the grad list, you are right.

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