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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/11/...-for-all-86692

    As someone who collects food stamps-- and needs them to survive-- this absolutely sickens me and I think it's a goddamned shame that criminal charges are not being pursued.

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Unfortunately, it was the retailer's fault for allowing it to happen. I think it would be a hard sell criminally since the retailers are the ones that overrode the protocols designed to protect them, and based upon what I have seen from some of it, there is no way you could convince me that the retailers did not know exactly what was going on.
    I think both parties were clearly at fault. The store for allowing the purchases and the individuals for attempting to abuse the system. Seems a fine solution though, since the store had to eat the costs

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    So... you're thinking they were angling for the government to cover them on sales they knew were fraudulent, too? I can see it.
    that was my interpretation

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    $27.50 over the limit?

    $43.12?

    $44.18?

    $60.04?

    $98.30?

    $99.99?

    $100.00?

    the example cited in the report was 699.50 dollars over the limit. Try harder

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/11/...-for-all-86692

    As someone who collects food stamps-- and needs them to survive-- this absolutely sickens me and I think it's a goddamned shame that criminal charges are not being pursued.
    I agree. A lot of my family and friends are on food stamps too.The last thing they need are degenerates basically screwing it up for everyone else. At first I thought what he did was in the right direction but what I see happen is that some rat lawyers are going to sue claiming you can't strip foodstamps from pieces of **** trying to scam the system and some retard on a bench will agree with those rat lawyers.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What was the crime? According to Korimyr the taxpayers didn't pay anything for this.
    attempt to defraud a person, business or industry is still a crime, and people like you give much needed assistance programs and liberals a bad name.

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Who got stolen from?
    they clearly attempted to defraud an assistance program

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Perhaps because the largest food retailer in the world who you and others falsely accused of "oppressing the masses" and other atrocities made a corporate decision that it was better not to deny welfare and food stamp moms their grocery purchases because the false accusers would run right out and claim they were keeping food from the mouths of the poor. Sometimes, through no fault of their own, big business is between a rock and a hard place and they just suck it up and move on.

    Walmart has no issue with turning down purchases people can't afford in any other situation.

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I appreciate your view, but let me put it this way - how much does the average person get in food stamps monthly? I believe in another thread, it was indicated that $36 per person per month is about the average - assuming that, if you have a big family, let's go to the extreme and say 10 people, you'd have about $360.
    I don't know about averages. As a single man with no children and no income, I get $200 a month. It's adjusted by income; when I was earning $580 a month, I was receiving $84.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Now, this problem happened in the first week of the month, if I'm not mistaken, so most people on food stamps would not legitimately be spending their entire allotment in the first week of the month because lots of foods don't last and most people on food stamps don't have multiple refrigerators and deep freezers - at least I assume they don't. So, for me, I would presume that most people shopping responsibly would not go over their monthly limit in the first few days of the month - is that unreasonable to assume?
    Well, with $200 I usually spend about $130 to $150 immediately, and then the rest here and there for the rest of the month. I don't buy much luxury food or frivolous food, so I eat very well and I don't normally run out of benefits. ($200 is too much for a single person, in my opinion.) With $84, it was routinely spent within the first week, and then I would buy the rest of my food out of my second paycheck each month, and I'd normally end up with bare cupboards by the end of the month.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    So who would be the people who went over their allotment? To me, it would be pretty easy to identify those who visited the store twice, three times, four times, etc. during this "event" and who racked up sales well in excess of what they knew was their monthly limit.
    Exactly. You know how much you receive in benefits. When you plan your food budget around your food stamp allotment, you learn real quick how much you can afford. It's really easy to go over if you're not keeping track... but there's a difference between 10-25% over and racking up more than your total monthly allotment on each of several trips.

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    No, there is a point where it can be assumed to be inadvertent. People may not know their exact balances. So, this is different than deliberate fraud and we're trying to find a viable number for when it would be obvious that the INTENT was to steal.

    I gave a bank related example earlier. Lets say they accidentally put an extra thousand in your account. Your check comes in and would have been a small over-draft. You would be forgiven.

    Better 100 guilty go free than one innocent be punished. That's something I believe with my heart.
    I do not know about Louisiana but in Oklahoma they tell you what you what benefits you have and notify you of any changes.They send you letters or call you by phone.There is a number of the back of the card so you call to check when your food stamps come in. I imagine Louisiana has a similar system. Every one of these scumbags knew they didn't have the funds.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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