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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The decisión to commit the crime was theirs and theirs alone.

    Giving someone else the opportunity to commit a crime does not make them libel for the crime.
    ugh, we already covered this, and besides showing that you were completely ignorant on the details of the story (making your assessment of it worthless) I also explained how walmart facilitated the purchases, how they knew the system wasn't working properly, and how there was an obvious run on EBT items

    So I am unsure how simply repeating yourself ten pages later changes anything from our original exchange

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    ugh, we already covered this, and besides showing that you were completely ignorant on the details of the story (making your assessment of it worthless) I also explained how walmart facilitated the purchases, how they knew the system wasn't working properly, and how there was an obvious run on EBT items

    So I am unsure how simply repeating yourself ten pages later changes anything from our original exchange
    O know the story.

    If you leave your front door open and even advertise you did that and a theif steals everything in the house you cannot be held responsable for the theft.

    Honest people do not steal from the program or the store.

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The decisión to commit the crime was theirs and theirs alone.

    Giving someone else the opportunity to commit a crime does not make them libel for the crime.
    (1)what makes you know which of those who overdrew their account balance decided to knowingly perpetrate that crime and which ones went over only because the system was unable to show their available SNAP balance

    or

    (2)are you telling us that all of them should have their benefits eliminated

    if you are unable or unwilling to share the process to option #1 then it must be concluded that you have opted for outcome #2, and have no problem removing food from the mouths of innocents
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    (1)what makes you know which of those who overdrew their account balance decided to knowingly perpetrate that crime and which ones went over only because the system was unable to show their available SNAP balance

    or

    (2)are you telling us that all of them should have their benefits eliminated

    if you are unable or unwilling to share the process to option #1 then it must be concluded that you have opted for outcome #2, and have no problem removing food from the mouths of innocents
    Now are you trying to say the buyers that bought ítems that value more than what they have ever had on their card did not know they didn't have the money on their account?

    This would be the same as a checking account. The account holder is responsable for not over spending what they have in the account, even if somebody lets them do it.

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    card holders can ask the cashier to check their account balance before check out to assure they will not exceed their account balance
    however, since the system was down, that was not possible

    which tells us that some of those customers who had overdrawn their account may have done so without criminal intent, and only due to the inoperable system
    why should they have their benefits rescinded
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    card holders can ask the cashier to check their account balance before check out to assure they will not exceed their account balance
    however, since the system was down, that was not possible

    which tells us that some of those customers who had overdrawn their account may have done so without criminal intent, and only due to the inoperable system
    why should they have their benefits rescinded
    I would agree with you if the overage was within a reasonable amount but to go over by hundreds is criminal.

    These people knew how much they get per week and they wen way over even that amount.

    Did you see the cartfuls left at the register when the system came back online?

    Who gets thousands of dollars per month on their card legitamately?

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    O know the story.

    If you leave your front door open and even advertise you did that and a theif steals everything in the house you cannot be held responsable for the theft.
    Again, this is the narrative you tried to paint previously and it was shown to be born from nothing but ignorance: 1) Walmart knew the system was down, 2) walmart knew the EBT cards were not showing limits, 3) Walmart knew the proper route of dealing with the situation 4) Walmart knew there was a frantic run on EBT eligible products. 4) Walmart thought the funds would be covered by a third party account

    Thus, your narrative, has absolutely nothing to do with reality

    Honest people do not steal from the program or the store.
    Do you even bother reading what you reply to? The original post that brought about our discussion was about BOTH parties being dishonest and trying to take advantage of a faulty system. Do you just not understand what the term "both" means or is this just another demonstration of how your ideology trumps reality?

    Honest people do not steal from the program or the store.[/QUOTE]

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    card holders can ask the cashier to check their account balance before check out to assure they will not exceed their account balance
    however, since the system was down, that was not possible

    which tells us that some of those customers who had overdrawn their account may have done so without criminal intent, and only due to the inoperable system
    lol, you don't miscalculate your balance by 699.50. You're just as bad as mason and neither of you give a fig about the facts here. Also, in day to day shopping we do not see the frantic "run" on EBT eligible items that we saw here. So while there may be some who made honest mistakes, there was undoubtedly those actively working to defraud the system


    why should they have their benefits rescinded
    Why is it that mindless ideology seems so entwined with willful ignorance here: Jindel's proposal explicitly accounts for this

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    lol, you don't miscalculate your balance by 699.50. You're just as bad as mason and neither of you give a fig about the facts here. Also, in day to day shopping we do not see the frantic "run" on EBT eligible items that we saw here. So while there may be some who made honest mistakes, there was undoubtedly those actively working to defraud the system




    Why is it that mindless ideology seems so entwined with willful ignorance here: Jindel's proposal explicitly accounts for this
    and then there are some who demonstrate their ignorant belief that all those who are subject to having their benefits cease are those $700 overdrawn
    under the governor's decree, all who were overdrawn will lose their SNAP benefits
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and then there are some who demonstrate their ignorant belief that all those who are subject to having their benefits cease are those $700 overdrawn
    under the governor's decree, all who were overdrawn will lose their SNAP benefits
    <<<“We must protect the program for those who receive and use their benefits appropriately according to the law. We are looking at each case individually, addressing those recipients who are suspected of misrepresenting their eligibility for benefits or defrauding the system,” Sonnier said in a prepared statement.>>>


    <<<The Jindal administration said Wednesday that problems occurred with people who spent more than their balances and with people who weren’t even eligible for food stamps.

    Violators can expect to get a letter about disqualification along with an offer to appeal through an administrative hearing.

    Anyone who waives or loses an appeal will lose food stamp benefits for as little as a year and as much as permanently depending on the number of prior offenses.>>>

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