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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Social Security isn't welfare. Social Security is an insurance program and everyone who collects Social Security earned that money and bought and paid for the program that pays them that money-- it is their money.
    Not entirely. Many contribute for decades and get nothing back, because they didn't live to retirement, or they're in jail, or whatever. To an extent it is actually welfare, because people collect it disproportionately, from the work of others.

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Social Security isn't welfare. Social Security is an insurance program and everyone who collects Social Security earned that money and bought and paid for the program that pays them that money-- it is their money.
    Not according to the Supreme Court.

    One of the most enduring myths of Social Security is that a worker has a legal right to his or her Social Security benefits. Most workers assume that because they pay Social Security taxes into the system their whole working lives, they have some sort of legal guarantee to its benefits.

    They assume wrong. In two landmark cases, Flemming v. Nestor and Helvering v. Davis, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that workers have no right to receive Social Security benefits. Congress and the president may change, reduce or even eliminate benefits at any time. Retirees must depend on the good will of 535 politicians to determine whether and how much they will receive in retirement.
    Kind of gives a warm feeling inside, doesn't it? I mean to say, a person drawing an annuity from a bank has way more protection than that.

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Not according to the Supreme Court.



    Kind of gives a warm feeling inside, doesn't it? I mean to say, a person drawing an annuity from a bank has way more protection than that.
    excellent rejoinder
    that one is eligible to benefit from a government benefits plan until the government modifies the requirements such that they do not
    that so changes the matter under discussion [/snark]
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    Not tough enough. They should lose their foods stamp eligibility, AND go to jail. It was theft, plain and simple.
    And the corporations who facilitated these transactions with full knowledge? Nothing? Jail for them too?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    $700 worth of groceries, seriously lady?!? The absolute nerve of some people.
    Well her children deserve prime rib every night, don't they?
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Not according to the Supreme Court.



    Kind of gives a warm feeling inside, doesn't it? I mean to say, a person drawing an annuity from a bank has way more protection than that.
    Election assure the Ponzi Scheme remains intact.
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Wow. Impressive move, Jindal. Good for you.


    But hold on to your hat. You're about to get accused of everything in the book.
    I do think a line needs to be drawn. If someone ony overdrew by a few dollars, I say it's probably an honest mistake. Anyone overdrawing by hundreds of dollars... "Book'em Danno..."

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And the corporations who facilitated these transactions with full knowledge? Nothing? Jail for them too?
    I think the government is stiffing them on the tab.

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I think the government is stiffing them on the tab.
    which is reasonable if we are simply removing and suspending benefits. But there are people calling for the welfare moops to be jailed, this puts a disproportionate amount of punishment on them, when it clearly took two to tango

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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    which is reasonable if we are simply removing and suspending benefits. But there are people calling for the welfare moops to be jailed, this puts a disproportionate amount of punishment on them, when it clearly took two to tango
    The decisión to commit the crime was theirs and theirs alone.

    Giving someone else the opportunity to commit a crime does not make them libel for the crime.

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