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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Unfortunately, it was the retailer's fault for allowing it to happen. I think it would be a hard sell criminally since the retailers are the ones that overrode the protocols designed to protect them, and based upon what I have seen from some of it, there is no way you could convince me that the retailers did not know exactly what was going on.

    Wait, you are blaming the retailer for the person who had the EBT card abuse? Excuse me? EBT cards have a set limit, these people were knowingly, willingly and with intent going well over the limit. No, they are fully responsible for their behavior and should be held 100% accountable for their actions.
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    I had to use food stamps for a period of my life. I left like $300 on the account for a year because I didn't need it once I found a job and they eventually closed the account. People thought I was crazy not to just go ahead and spend it and now I see why.
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I had to use food stamps for a period of my life. I left like $300 on the account for a year because I didn't need it once I found a job and they eventually closed the account. People thought I was crazy not to just go ahead and spend it and now I see why.
    You did the honest thing, nothing to regret IMO.
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Wait, you are blaming the retailer for the person who had the EBT card abuse? Excuse me? EBT cards have a set limit, these people were knowingly, willingly and with intent going well over the limit. No, they are fully responsible for their behavior and should be held 100% accountable for their actions.
    And the retailers know that there is a limit and they know that if the system shows "no limit" as it did on that day, they are supposed to implement the emergency procedure, allowing only a set amount to be purchased by the EBT cards. That is what they agreed to. So yes, the retailer in this case is to blame because they failed to abide by the agreement. The users hold some responsibility, but only to use their cards responsibly, not to know at all times exactly how much they have on them. That is why the retailers get guaranteed access to that information with the EBT agreement.
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And the retailers know that there is a limit and they know that if the system shows "no limit" as it did on that day, they are supposed to implement the emergency procedure, allowing only a set amount to be purchased by the EBT cards. That is what they agreed to. So yes, the retailer in this case is to blame because they failed to abide by the agreement. The users hold some responsibility, but only to use their cards responsibly, not to know at all times exactly how much they have on them. That is why the retailers get guaranteed access to that information with the EBT agreement.
    Who is issued the EBT card?

    That is the responsible party.
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Who is issued the EBT card?

    That is the responsible party.
    No, it isn't the only "responsible party". The retailer holds some responsibility because it is their responsibility to stop purchases that they know are beyond the person's agreed upon benefit amount, and they didn't.
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, it isn't the only "responsible party". The retailer holds some responsibility because it is their responsibility to stop purchases that they know are beyond the person's agreed upon benefit amount, and they didn't.
    They have been held responsible, by eating the cost of their failure, but the original crime was the EBT card holder trying to purchase far more then they were allotted. Please correct me if I'm off on this, but I get the impression you are saying the fraud of the EBT holders isn't really their fault cause 2 Wally World stores did something stupid...
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    They have been held responsible, by eating the cost of their failure, but the original crime was the EBT card holder trying to purchase far more then they were allotted. Please correct me if I'm off on this, but I get the impression you are saying the fraud of the EBT holders isn't really their fault cause 2 Wally World stores did something stupid...
    And those that abused it (as in went way over what they had available) lost their benefits. Seems fair.
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And those that abused it (as in went way over what they had available) lost their benefits. Seems fair.
    I do wish there would be a fraud investigation on the people who milked the glitch. The retailers certainly paid in losses, but like I said earlier if I had done that with a personal check, I would be in prison for a while.
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    Re: Louisiana Food Stamp Abusers Will Lose Benefits Over Wal-Mart Free For All

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I do wish there would be a fraud investigation on the people who milked the glitch. The retailers certainly paid in losses, but like I said earlier if I had done that with a personal check, I would be in prison for a while.
    Why do you seem so lenient in your view with those who facilitated the sales? personally, you can hardly justify pursuing criminal action and not seeking remedy from the party that facilitated such actions.

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