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    Re: Student Loan Debt Owed to Federal Government Up 463% Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It seems strange that a university would have furloughs, hiring freezes, layoffs of staff, and reductions in operating expenditures and even lay off entire departments of learning .....and then give the coach an 800K raise.


    Division I schools spend more on athletes than education
    Good article, Thanks.

    How much money does Ford spend on advertising? How many lay offs has Ford had in the past 8 years?
    Same question about any company.

    College sports is nothing but a giant advertisement for the school. I can promise you I would never have heard of Boise State if not for their football success in the last few years. Same with many of the smaller, "bracket buster" schools from the basketball tournament.... and I don't even watch basketball... but I have heard of Gonzaga because of it.
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    Re: Student Loan Debt Owed to Federal Government Up 463% Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    Good article, Thanks.

    How much money does Ford spend on advertising? How many lay offs has Ford had in the past 8 years?
    Same question about any company.

    College sports is nothing but a giant advertisement for the school. I can promise you I would never have heard of Boise State if not for their football success in the last few years. Same with many of the smaller, "bracket buster" schools from the basketball tournament.... and I don't even watch basketball... but I have heard of Gonzaga because of it.
    To my knowledge Ford isn't a publically funded company whereas a lot of state universities and colleges are. Personally I think colleges and universities have lost sight of their priorities which is to teach kids marketable skills so they can get a job in todays market. Instead of promoting science and engineering, they promote football or basketball. Meanwhile the rest of the world is surpassing the US in science and engineering and employers in the US are forced to hire foreigners because our institutions aren't graduating scientists and engineers, instead they're graduating ball chuckers.

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    Re: Student Loan Debt Owed to Federal Government Up 463% Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    To my knowledge Ford isn't a publically funded company whereas a lot of state universities and colleges are. Personally I think colleges and universities have lost sight of their priorities which is to teach kids marketable skills so they can get a job in todays market. Instead of promoting science and engineering, they promote football or basketball. Meanwhile the rest of the world is surpassing the US in science and engineering and employers in the US are forced to hire foreigners because our institutions aren't graduating scientists and engineers, instead they're graduating ball chuckers.
    Again, I disagree.

    At Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, their Engineering department is chock full of foreign students. I think the Universities are graduating students that can pass the course.... and those with the backgrounds to do so are coming from better primary school systems... OR they want them more.


    The University of Florida has ~80 men on the varsity football team. They enroll 50,000 anually.... Graduating ball chuckers is hyperbole
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    Re: Student Loan Debt Owed to Federal Government Up 463% Under Obama

    So, that begs the next question.....

    That young kid from some inner city school that gets a baskeball scholorship. Is he better off after four years of ball chucking while earning a degree in underwater basket weaving? Or would he have been better off never having gone to the college in the first place because ther UBW degree is garbage?
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    Re: Student Loan Debt Owed to Federal Government Up 463% Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    So, that begs the next question.....

    That young kid from some inner city school that gets a baskeball scholorship. Is he better off after four years of ball chucking while earning a degree in underwater basket weaving? Or would he have been better off never having gone to the college in the first place because ther UBW degree is garbage?
    He's one kid out of hundreds of thousands of ghetto kids who dream of becoming either a sports star or a wrapper but never will. For most, that dream is about all they have.

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    Re: Student Loan Debt Owed to Federal Government Up 463% Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    He's one kid out of hundreds of thousands of ghetto kids who dream of becoming either a sports star or a wrapper but never will. For most, that dream is about all they have.
    If I was going to be a wrapper for anything, it would be a Kit Kat.
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    Re: Student Loan Debt Owed to Federal Government Up 463% Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    Again, I disagree.

    At Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, their Engineering department is chock full of foreign students. I think the Universities are graduating students that can pass the course.... and those with the backgrounds to do so are coming from better primary school systems... OR they want them more.


    The University of Florida has ~80 men on the varsity football team. They enroll 50,000 anually.... Graduating ball chuckers is hyperbole
    Well, that does beg the question, why are there more foreign students in the engineering departments than US students?

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    Re: Student Loan Debt Owed to Federal Government Up 463% Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    If I was going to be a wrapper for anything, it would be a Kit Kat.
    oops, did I say wrapper? LOL yeah dats what I meant, a candy wrapper....or gift wrapper. lol RAPPER...I meant rapper. rrrrrapper.

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    Re: Student Loan Debt Owed to Federal Government Up 463% Under Obama

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    He's one kid out of hundreds of thousands of ghetto kids who dream of becoming either a sports star or a wrapper but never will. For most, that dream is about all they have.
    There are ~120 Division 1 schools in football and almost twice that in Basketball. If each one give a scholarship to an kid that would otherwise never make it into school (not a stretch by anyone's imagination), you have 300 kids a year that get an education that they never would have had. One out of those will turn out to be a superstar pro that makes an 8 figure salary. But the other 299 are still better off had they not gone in the first place. Is 300 out of 300,000 a drop in the bucket... of course... but that is just a conservative number. It could be MUCH higher.
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    Re: Student Loan Debt Owed to Federal Government Up 463% Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Well, that does beg the question, why are there more foreign students in the engineering departments than US students?
    Now that is a question for another debate. But I agree..... THAT is the underlining problem with the American public school system.
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