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Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

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Wow! A liberal publication taking a Democratic poll and finding bad news for...Democrats?

I don't imagine you'll be hearing THAT on MSNBC any time soon.



Breaking with the trend rather surprisingly Wednesday was the perilously liberal Mother Jones with a piece titled "New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble."


The poll was actually from James Carville and Stan Greenberg's Democracy Corps...

In Democratic districts, net incumbent approval has plummeted by 11 points, from +8 approval to +3 disapproval. In Republican districts, incumbent approval has gone down only 4 points. You see the same results when they ask a question about warmth of feeling toward incumbents: It's down 7 points in Republican districts and 9 points in Democratic districts.


This isn't good news for Democrats. It's true that attitudes toward the Republican Party have taken a bigger hit than attitudes toward the Democratic Party, but attitudes toward actual incumbents are exactly the opposite. And in elections, that's what matters.
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Really... with the likes of Pelosi, Reid and Obama's antics and comments during Harry Reid's Shutdown, this isn't surprising.
 
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Incumbent approval EVERYWHERE is down. And then when people get into the voting booths ... they vote for the same old, same old.

Congress Dives, Anti-Incumbency Soars in Deep Post-Shutdown Criticism - ABC News

Cruz's antics during the shutdown are every bit as damaging to the GOP. Don't kid yourself, Zimmer. The ABC article says GOP incumbent approval is down; it doesn't mention that GOP incumbent approval was much lower to begin with. Selective reading of polling data isn't good for you.

Democrats' net disapproval in that poll was 61 percent; Republicans was 77.
 
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It is funny how Obama is in BIG trouble with mid 40s rating, but the GOP is doing just fine according to the GOP with sub 10% ratings.. Even Al Q is more popular in some areas than the GOP!
 
It is funny how Obama is in BIG trouble with mid 40s rating, but the GOP is doing just fine according to the GOP with sub 10% ratings.. Even Al Q is more popular in some areas than the GOP!

Yes... Demokrats are doing just fine... that's why 10 Socialist Senators are trying to get ObamaKare delayed. Because ObamaKare is just a bundle of roses that will be a lock for them winning their elections.
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright!

The 2014 races are local but will be tied to Obama and the D's in general and their dishonesty about ObamaKare, about their Benghazi cover-up, about their failure on foriegn policy matters, on their wasteful spending and the massive debt they've created in the past 5-years.

They have quite the record to promote... errrrr... defend.
 
Yes... Demokrats are doing just fine...
that's why 10 Socialist Senators are trying to get ObamaKare delayed. Because ObamaKare is just a bundle of roses that will be a lock for them winning their elections.
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright!

The 2014 races are local but will be tied to Obama and the D's in general and their dishonesty about ObamaKare, about their Benghazi cover-up, about their failure on foriegn policy matters, on their wasteful spending and the massive debt they've created in the past 5-years.

They have quite the record to promote... errrrr... defend.




Tell us when the next member of the GOP will move into the White House.

You don't control the U. S. government if you don't control the White House.




The clock is ticking on the out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
 
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Incumbent approval EVERYWHERE is down. And then when people get into the voting booths ... they vote for the same old, same old.

Congress Dives, Anti-Incumbency Soars in Deep Post-Shutdown Criticism - ABC News

Cruz's antics during the shutdown are every bit as damaging to the GOP. Don't kid yourself, Zimmer. The ABC article says GOP incumbent approval is down; it doesn't mention that GOP incumbent approval was much lower to begin with. Selective reading of polling data isn't good for you.

Democrats' net disapproval in that poll was 61 percent; Republicans was 77.
2014 will be all about Obamacare. If it is a disaster and millions of people lose coverage, face massive rate spikes, or other major problems no one will remember the shutdown. In fact no one is even talking about it now. But if the problems smooth out and people seem content with Obamacare, then dems prospects for next fall are quite good. The trouble for dems is that there is no way the latter is going to happen. For them 2014 will be all about Obamacare damage control. And if that's the case, the argument will become how many more seats will the dems lose.
 
Yes... Demokrats are doing just fine... that's why 10 Socialist Senators are trying to get ObamaKare delayed. Because ObamaKare is just a bundle of roses that will be a lock for them winning their elections.
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright!

The 2014 races are local but will be tied to Obama and the D's in general and their dishonesty about ObamaKare, about their Benghazi cover-up, about their failure on foriegn policy matters, on their wasteful spending and the massive debt they've created in the past 5-years.

They have quite the record to promote... errrrr... defend.

Do you think putting K's in the place of C's somehow adds to... well, any part of any conversation ever?

It's cute when an eight year old girl puts it on the sign for her lemonade stand, but you're allegedly an adult.
 
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Incumbent approval EVERYWHERE is down. And then when people get into the voting booths ... they vote for the same old, same old.

Congress Dives, Anti-Incumbency Soars in Deep Post-Shutdown Criticism - ABC News

Cruz's antics during the shutdown are every bit as damaging to the GOP. Don't kid yourself, Zimmer. The ABC article says GOP incumbent approval is down; it doesn't mention that GOP incumbent approval was much lower to begin with. Selective reading of polling data isn't good for you.

Democrats' net disapproval in that poll was 61 percent; Republicans was 77.



At the national level, including Obama, I have four representatives. If I could, I'd eject three of them today. The jury is out on the fourth one, but a legitimate replacement would close that door, too.

My Congressman did not even return a 'Thanks for the email" replay when I wrote to him until three weeks later. What a loser! He's from the same party that brought us Obamacare so a lack of comprehension on the auto response feature is to be understood.

I'm sick of the whole bunch. All of them. If Al Qaeda happened to hit the Capital with an airplane during the State of the Union, we'd be better off.
 
Tell us when the next member of the GOP will move into the White House.

You don't control the U. S. government if you don't control the White House.




The clock is ticking on the out of touch, running out of time, GOP.



If you dug a little deeper every time the GOP was ready to get get buried, you'd be breaking the surface in China right about now.

Same with the Democrats.

Huge mistakes, like the war in Iraq or the entire Obama Presidency tend to get people's attention.
 
Do you think putting K's in the place of C's somehow adds to... well, any part of any conversation ever?

It's cute when an eight year old girl puts it on the sign for her lemonade stand, but you're allegedly an adult.



Where does the K fit in to Lemonade?
 
Really... with the likes of Pelosi, Reid and Obama's antics and comments during Harry Reid's Shutdown, this isn't surprising.

I wouldn't get too happy, there is a long time between now and next November of 2014. But if you want numbers from the Cook Report which follows the house races district by district. On 30 October of 2013 he shows 199 safe/solid republican seats to 165 safe/solid democratic seats. But in his likely/lean column there are 32 Republican Seats to 26 Democratic ones. In the tossup column there are only 3 Republican seats vs. 10 for the Democrats. So if the election was held today, you would be looking pretty much at a status quo election in the house. The wild card is the generic congressional poll which asks voters whether they would want a Democrat or Republican as their congressional representative. There the Democrats have a big edge 46.3% to 40.3%.

In the senate, the republicans look like they might pick up WV, MT, and SD with AR being a toss up. But the Dems are close to picking up GA and perhaps KY. Another pretty much status quo election in the senate. But with a year between now and then, anything can happen.

Remember back in Dec of 11/Jan of 12 it looked like generic Republican presidential candidate would win the presidency and the GOP pick up 10 seats in the house and win 6 or 7 senate seats. The lost 2 senate seats that November along with the presidency. Nothing here to get real happy about or real negative about.
 
Really... with the likes of Pelosi, Reid and Obama's antics and comments during Harry Reid's Shutdown, this isn't surprising.

Democrats win America loses. Republicans win America loses. IMHO it doesn't really matter that much either way as most Americans seem to be comfortable sucking hind tit. Until voters get cajones and vote all the bastards out corpgov will own America and the people will lose.
 
Tell us when the next member of the GOP will move into the White House.

You don't control the U. S. government if you don't control the White House.




The clock is ticking on the out of touch, running out of time, GOP.

President Christie will be inaugurated on 20 January 2017.:peace
 
Incumbent approval EVERYWHERE is down. And then when people get into the voting booths ... they vote for the same old, same old.

Congress Dives, Anti-Incumbency Soars in Deep Post-Shutdown Criticism - ABC News

Cruz's antics during the shutdown are every bit as damaging to the GOP. Don't kid yourself, Zimmer. The ABC article says GOP incumbent approval is down; it doesn't mention that GOP incumbent approval was much lower to begin with. Selective reading of polling data isn't good for you.

Democrats' net disapproval in that poll was 61 percent; Republicans was 77.

This, to me, is the bigger story. Usually the American public hates on its governing institutions, but generally likes the people it sends to those institutions, thereby effectively making my sympathy with complainers null and void. However, this may actually indicate that the American public is actually making the connection between who they send to office and the outcome.

Maybe there's enough hope in them to suggest that short of ensuring that dramatic theatrics aren't a regular occurrence in the legislative branch, that you can't really do much to make Congress some magical place-and that it is okay.
 
President Christie will be inaugurated on 20 January 2017.:peace

Are you trying to be called a RINO?

It's an odd choice, unless for some reason you are a Democrat or a RINO like me.
 
President Christie will be inaugurated on 20 January 2017.:peace




Keep believing that but don't be shocked when it doesn't happen.

Christie is a decent human being who is tied up with the wrong outfit.




"Better day's are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
 
Keep believing that but don't be shocked when it doesn't happen.

Christie is a decent human being who is tied up with the wrong outfit.

You asked. I answered. I am a member of no party. Repubs are too zealous. Dems are too dishonest. :peace
 
Incumbent approval EVERYWHERE is down. And then when people get into the voting booths ... they vote for the same old, same old.

Congress Dives, Anti-Incumbency Soars in Deep Post-Shutdown Criticism - ABC News

Cruz's antics during the shutdown are every bit as damaging to the GOP. Don't kid yourself, Zimmer. The ABC article says GOP incumbent approval is down; it doesn't mention that GOP incumbent approval was much lower to begin with. Selective reading of polling data isn't good for you.

Democrats' net disapproval in that poll was 61 percent; Republicans was 77.

The net figure doesn't matter here as reps are elected by district. What matters are the figures coming out of the individual districts. And for an intensely liberal rag to admit there is a problem in dem districts, that's not good for the dems.

However, I don't see the districts switching parties. This early in the game with these figures we may see the party seeking some incumbants to retire giving them a chance to keep the district with a newbie.
 
You asked. I answered. I am a member of no party. Repubs are too zealous. Dems are too dishonest. :peace




No one (Including me.), will really know who the winner is until after the election, until then everyone is just expressing their opinion.
 
Keep believing that but don't be shocked when it doesn't happen.

Christie is a decent human being who is tied up with the wrong outfit.




"Better day's are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.


But the real question is, would you actually vote for Christie, regardless of say, a Hillary or Biden candidacy?
 
But the real question is, would you actually vote for Christie, regardless of say, a Hillary or Biden candidacy?




Christie is a decent human being who doesn't let politics get in the way of helping people.

If he runs for the White House I will give him very serious consideration.
 
President Christie will be inaugurated on 20 January 2017.:peace
Why would anyone vote for Christie? The Socialists are likely to have Clinton to vote for. And it is clear that Christie and an establishment republican like McCain, Dole, Bush....
 
Christie is a decent human being who doesn't let politics get in the way of helping people.

Eh, let's not go that far. But it's interesting you would actually consider voting for him. I doubt many Democrats would, however.
 
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