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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    RINO is a term I don't use, and I certainly would not apply it to Christie.
    It's rather ironic, given that Theodore Roosevelt, Taft, and La Follette first started using the idea behind the term. In a way, all Tea Partiers and their sympathizers would be RINOs, by being less than progressive in ideology. It's a silly mechanism, but it's still humorous that Republicans do it.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It's rather ironic, given that Theodore Roosevelt, Taft, and La Follette first started using the idea behind the term. In a way, all Tea Partiers and their sympathizers would be RINOs, by being less than progressive in ideology. It's a silly mechanism, but it's still humorous that Republicans do it.
    Interesting take. Dems have their equivalent. I recall Howard Dean proclaiming himself leader of "the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party."
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You are certainly entitled to your view. I think your style of politics wins races for the Dems. The Senate has a Dem majority because of voters like you. That's OK if that's what you want, but I don't think it is. Christie can win, and he'd made a good POTUS in my view.
    I agree Jack, hope all is well. The thing about Christie is he is very attractive to the independent voters which is a must for Republicans. Now whether they know that or not, is another thing. Independents have a 44% favorable view of him vs. 22% unfavorable. That is a great start in the General election, but the question is, Can he win in the primaries, win the nomination?
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I agree Jack, hope all is well. The thing about Christie is he is very attractive to the independent voters which is a must for Republicans. Now whether they know that or not, is another thing. Independents have a 44% favorable view of him vs. 22% unfavorable. That is a great start in the General election, but the question is, Can he win in the primaries, win the nomination?
    We shall see. I hope the cameras are rolling the first time he's confronted by a heckler in Iowa.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    We shall see. I hope the cameras are rolling the first time he's confronted by a heckler in Iowa.
    Yeah, I do like his bulldog personality.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You are certainly entitled to your view. I think your style of politics wins races for the Dems. The Senate has a Dem majority because of voters like you. That's OK if that's what you want, but I don't think it is. Christie can win, and he'd made a good POTUS in my view.
    The landslides have occurred when conservatives ran.
    How big a victory margin did Bob Dole have?
    How big a victory margin did John McCain have?
    How big a victory margin did Mitt Romney have?

    The style of politics you are suggesting will be a winner for us has been tried and it fails.

    Or we can run on name recognition. What does that buy us? If we win we get exactly the same thing the Democrats offer only at a slower rate.

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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

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    RINO is a term I don't use, and I certainly would not apply it to Christie.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

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    The landslides have occurred when conservatives ran.
    How big a victory margin did Bob Dole have?
    How big a victory margin did John McCain have?
    How big a victory margin did Mitt Romney have?

    The style of politics you are suggesting will be a winner for us has been tried and it fails.

    Or we can run on name recognition. What does that buy us? If we win we get exactly the same thing the Democrats offer only at a slower rate.
    What about Barry Goldwater?

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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

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    What about Barry Goldwater?
    What about him?

    A young, charismatic, president was assassinated. It is tough to overcome the desire for a utopian pipe dream called Camelot.

    I can remember as a child the candy that had "All the way with LBJ" on it. It was on the appealing candy. 'Go go go with Goldwater" was on the less appealing candy. Clever idea.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    What about him?
    He ran as a conservative and lost

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