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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Really... with the likes of Pelosi, Reid and Obama's antics and comments during Harry Reid's Shutdown, this isn't surprising.
    I wouldn't get too happy, there is a long time between now and next November of 2014. But if you want numbers from the Cook Report which follows the house races district by district. On 30 October of 2013 he shows 199 safe/solid republican seats to 165 safe/solid democratic seats. But in his likely/lean column there are 32 Republican Seats to 26 Democratic ones. In the tossup column there are only 3 Republican seats vs. 10 for the Democrats. So if the election was held today, you would be looking pretty much at a status quo election in the house. The wild card is the generic congressional poll which asks voters whether they would want a Democrat or Republican as their congressional representative. There the Democrats have a big edge 46.3% to 40.3%.

    In the senate, the republicans look like they might pick up WV, MT, and SD with AR being a toss up. But the Dems are close to picking up GA and perhaps KY. Another pretty much status quo election in the senate. But with a year between now and then, anything can happen.

    Remember back in Dec of 11/Jan of 12 it looked like generic Republican presidential candidate would win the presidency and the GOP pick up 10 seats in the house and win 6 or 7 senate seats. The lost 2 senate seats that November along with the presidency. Nothing here to get real happy about or real negative about.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Really... with the likes of Pelosi, Reid and Obama's antics and comments during Harry Reid's Shutdown, this isn't surprising.
    Democrats win America loses. Republicans win America loses. IMHO it doesn't really matter that much either way as most Americans seem to be comfortable sucking hind tit. Until voters get cajones and vote all the bastards out corpgov will own America and the people will lose.










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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Tell us when the next member of the GOP will move into the White House.

    You don't control the U. S. government if you don't control the White House.




    The clock is ticking on the out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
    President Christie will be inaugurated on 20 January 2017.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Incumbent approval EVERYWHERE is down. And then when people get into the voting booths ... they vote for the same old, same old.

    Congress Dives, Anti-Incumbency Soars in Deep Post-Shutdown Criticism - ABC News

    Cruz's antics during the shutdown are every bit as damaging to the GOP. Don't kid yourself, Zimmer. The ABC article says GOP incumbent approval is down; it doesn't mention that GOP incumbent approval was much lower to begin with. Selective reading of polling data isn't good for you.

    Democrats' net disapproval in that poll was 61 percent; Republicans was 77.
    This, to me, is the bigger story. Usually the American public hates on its governing institutions, but generally likes the people it sends to those institutions, thereby effectively making my sympathy with complainers null and void. However, this may actually indicate that the American public is actually making the connection between who they send to office and the outcome.

    Maybe there's enough hope in them to suggest that short of ensuring that dramatic theatrics aren't a regular occurrence in the legislative branch, that you can't really do much to make Congress some magical place-and that it is okay.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    President Christie will be inaugurated on 20 January 2017.
    Are you trying to be called a RINO?

    It's an odd choice, unless for some reason you are a Democrat or a RINO like me.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Are you trying to be called a RINO?

    It's an odd choice, unless for some reason you are a Democrat or a RINO like me.
    I'm a member of no party.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    President Christie will be inaugurated on 20 January 2017.



    Keep believing that but don't be shocked when it doesn't happen.

    Christie is a decent human being who is tied up with the wrong outfit.




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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Keep believing that but don't be shocked when it doesn't happen.

    Christie is a decent human being who is tied up with the wrong outfit.
    You asked. I answered. I am a member of no party. Repubs are too zealous. Dems are too dishonest.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Incumbent approval EVERYWHERE is down. And then when people get into the voting booths ... they vote for the same old, same old.

    Congress Dives, Anti-Incumbency Soars in Deep Post-Shutdown Criticism - ABC News

    Cruz's antics during the shutdown are every bit as damaging to the GOP. Don't kid yourself, Zimmer. The ABC article says GOP incumbent approval is down; it doesn't mention that GOP incumbent approval was much lower to begin with. Selective reading of polling data isn't good for you.

    Democrats' net disapproval in that poll was 61 percent; Republicans was 77.
    The net figure doesn't matter here as reps are elected by district. What matters are the figures coming out of the individual districts. And for an intensely liberal rag to admit there is a problem in dem districts, that's not good for the dems.

    However, I don't see the districts switching parties. This early in the game with these figures we may see the party seeking some incumbants to retire giving them a chance to keep the district with a newbie.

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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You asked. I answered. I am a member of no party. Repubs are too zealous. Dems are too dishonest.



    No one (Including me.), will really know who the winner is until after the election, until then everyone is just expressing their opinion.

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