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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You are claiming that the "left" does not tolerate opposing viewpoints. This is accepted as some sort of truism among conservatives, and it's a load of crap.
    When 14 Senators have to get permission to state their objections to a law out loud in order to save their political hide, I suspect they don't think it's a load of crap.
    True ... being used to the rules may soften the impact a bit.

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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Whatever you say.
    Oh golly, Hot Air. Yes, that's objective.

    Anyone can cherry pick anything to make one "side" look bad. But acting as if intolerance of opposing viewpoints is some basic tenet of "left" thought is asinine. It simply isn't true, no matter how much you conservatives (and conservatives masquerading as "independents") try to claim it.

    More conservative victimhood complex BS. It's weaksauce.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Oh golly, Hot Air. Yes, that's objective.

    Anyone can cherry pick anything to make one "side" look bad. But acting as if intolerance of opposing viewpoints is some basic tenet of "left" thought is asinine. It simply isn't true, no matter how much you conservatives (and conservatives masquerading as "independents") try to claim it.

    More conservative victimhood complex BS. It's weaksauce.
    Ah, well. Nothing to be done in the face of such an irrefutable argument.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    When 14 Senators have to get permission to state their objections to a law out loud in order to save their political hide, I suspect they don't think it's a load of crap.
    True ... being used to the rules may soften the impact a bit.
    Yes, because a matter of Senatorial procedure from a center-left party = how the "left" operates on a daily basis.

    There is this pervasive notion that everyone to the "left" of center behaves and operates in the exact same fashion. Neither side is a hivemind.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Yes, because a matter of Senatorial procedure from a center-left party = how the "left" operates on a daily basis.

    There is this pervasive notion that everyone to the "left" of center behaves and operates in the exact same fashion. Neither side is a hivemind.
    Senatorial procedure?
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Senatorial procedure?
    Not by-the-book senatorial procedure, that was probably a bad term to use. However, a caucus is generally supposed to stick together -- you don't often find members of either party's senate caucuses openly talking **** about their party's legislation. To use that as an example of "leftist" thinking is asinine.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Not by-the-book senatorial procedure, that was probably a bad term to use. However, a caucus is generally supposed to stick together -- you don't often find members of either party's senate caucuses openly talking **** about their party's legislation. To use that as an example of "leftist" thinking is asinine.
    Senators don't act like House members.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Senators don't act like House members.
    That's right, they don't. Getting permission before shooting their mouths off is what Senators do.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That's right, they don't. Getting permission before shooting their mouths off is what Senators do.
    Actually the opposite is true.
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    Re: Mother Jones Shocker: 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Actually the opposite is true.
    OK. What-the-****-ever.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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