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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The greater question might be why she was ever popular. Any accomplishments she may have are few, despite the opportunities handed to her.

    Perhaps people are ready for a real president rather than a celebrity.
    As of right nw, I'd probabl vote for Hillary over any other potential nominee from either major party. She seems like she would make a competent executive and party leader (something woefully missing from the current administration) and that she's able to navigate the halls of washington. At this point I'm looking for competence in the WH, not political allignment

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    As of right nw, I'd probabl vote for Hillary over any other potential nominee from either major party. She seems like she would make a competent executive and party leader (something woefully missing from the current administration) and that she's able to navigate the halls of washington. At this point I'm looking for competence in the WH, not political allignment
    Why would you think she'd be competent? Has she yet demonstrated any competence, leadership abilities, avoided any scandals?

    That she is able to navigate the halls of Washington is without question but any longtime staff can do that. All Hillary has going for her is political alignment, nothing more.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I agree. It just seems that some people were acting like the OP disagreeing with the article was some high crime.
    RCP has a 2016 general election match up of polls, Clinton leads Christie by 8, Ryan by 9, Paul by 13, Jeb Bush by 7, Rubio by 9, Cruz by 20. But we all know these mean nothing this far out and we don't even know if Clinton will win the Democratic nomination. Still they do provide some intel to the situation. RCP also has some with Biden as the Democratic nominee, Christie slam dunks him, but Biden is ahead by about 5 points over all the rest. All this does is give someone a feeling about how people looked at the upcoming race today. Not 2 years into the future.
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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That sounds like a prize strategy. I expect it should work about as well as when Benghazi was splashed across the news 24/7 leading up to the 2012 election.
    I'll stick with the truth as I know it and leave the strategy to the strategists.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why would you think she'd be competent? Has she yet demonstrated any competence, leadership abilities, avoided any scandals?
    She seemed to take the leadership role while SS, often coming across as the more dominate personality in shaping foreign relations

    That she is able to navigate the halls of Washington is without question but any longtime staff can do that. All Hillary has going for her is political alignment, nothing more.
    I think the Obama admin speaks directly against that assumption

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I'll stick with the truth as I know it and leave the strategy to the strategists.
    And that strategy will work great with people who would already eat their first born before casting a vote for Hillary. Everybody else recognizes that the Benghazi attack was a tragedy and probably the result of failure in the lines of communication, not some insidious desire by Obama personally to see people die. The right wing rhetoric on Benghazi is successful with its base of voters that be relied upon to vote, but sounds shrill and hysterical to everyone else.

    Anyway, good luck with that.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And that strategy will work great with people who would already eat their first born before casting a vote for Hillary. Everybody else recognizes that the Benghazi attack was a tragedy and probably the result of failure in the lines of communication, not some insidious desire by Obama personally to see people die. The right wing rhetoric on Benghazi is successful with its base of voters that be relied upon to vote, but sounds shrill and hysterical to everyone else.

    Anyway, good luck with that.
    I believe I already said I don't strategize. You must have missed it. I'm interested in the truth about Benghazi, and it appears that Hillary, Obama and a host of others are complicit in a coverup, or the witnesses would be allowed to testify. Funny you should mention Obama's personal association with death: Book Alleges Obama Told Aides About Drone Strikes: I’m ‘Really Good At Killing People’ CBS DC

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I agree. It just seems that some people were acting like the OP disagreeing with the article was some high crime.
    I don't know about it being a high crime, but if the one article you link to in your OP doesn't actually support your argument, that's just sloppy.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I believe I already said I don't strategize. You must have missed it. I'm interested in the truth about Benghazi, and it appears that Hillary, Obama and a host of others are complicit in a coverup, or the witnesses would be allowed to testify. Funny you should mention Obama's personal association with death: Book Alleges Obama Told Aides About Drone Strikes: I’m ‘Really Good At Killing People’ CBS DC
    As I said, shrill and hysterical. And now I can add "off topic" to that list.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And that strategy will work great with people who would already eat their first born before casting a vote for Hillary. Everybody else recognizes that the Benghazi attack was a tragedy and probably the result of failure in the lines of communication, not some insidious desire by Obama personally to see people die. The right wing rhetoric on Benghazi is successful with its base of voters that be relied upon to vote, but sounds shrill and hysterical to everyone else.

    Anyway, good luck with that.
    Although I agree with you that Benghazi has little use as a political issue as of this time to garner votes, shall I say from independents. There is one thing that the present administration has yet to explain. That is why are they keeping hidden the survivors from congress or giving interviews on TV. As long as the present administration does this, there is more than a hint that it is attempting to hide something, something they do not want the American public to know.

    Now this probably won't change a single vote, if you are for Clinton or any Democrat, you don't care what is being hidden, it is rah, rah, myside. If you are a Republican and anti-Clinton, even if there is nothing there once there is a TV interview or something like that with the survivors, it won't change a single vote with them either, they are also rah, rah myside and boo Clinton.

    But if there is something there and if is a mighty bit word, it could explode right in the Democrats face. No one will know for certain one way or the other until the survivors testify or give an interview on 60 minutes or some other show.
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