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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I agree that it's good to know what led up to the attack, who attacked us an how it happened so that we can be better prepared in the future, so you'll be happy to know that Hillary Clinton thinks that too. Know how I know that? Because she said that, and you can see that in the same paragraph the "what difference does it make" comment is lifted from.



    Although even the whole unedited quote is a bit misleading if you miss the question and answer session that finally led up to it. Clinton focuses her answers on the facts of the attack and all the while Senator Johnson just wants to talk about whether it was said that a video started it. So when she finally explodes with the infamous "what difference does it make" comment she's not saying that why the attack started isn't important but that the priorities of Senator Johnson line of inquiry at that point in time and the investigation were completely misplaced. Read the whole interview and you'll see that clearly.

    PolitiFact | In Context: Hillary Clinton's 'What difference does it make' comment
    I've watched the long exchange a number of times and my impression is unaltered.

    But myself, I've never understood the appeal this woman has that would inspire anyone to put her in charge of much of anything. And, being a Conservative, I conserve knowledge. Hillary has been involved in a number of investigations now. And she is never forthcoming with information. If you or I failed to produce subpoenaed documents that were later "found" in our residence we'd probably go to jail. Not Hillary, oh no.

    If you or I told a senate investigating committee 184 times that we "couldn't recall" when asked about our own actions, we'd be lucky to avoid having a legal guardian appointed, instead of being held in contempt and investigated for possible prosecution. But Hillary had the right marital connections.

    And of course, somehow Hillary wasn't held to be a major figure when four Americans died in a fiasco created by mindless dismissal of professional security concerns, and the following attempts by the Administration to stonewall legal and journalistic investigations of the debacle.

    Why would a sane person not bent of the ruin of the country want to see such a shady character in power?
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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    She was probably the best candidate of the entire dem/GOP field in 2008. That is NOT a positive comment on HC so much as it is an indictment on the entire field in 2008. Now...why is she unpopular? She is a liar...but then so are most politicians. She has avoided any responsibility and leadership in her most recent government role...maybe people are tired of the I didnt know, it wasnt my fault, and besides, it doesnt MATTER schtick. Her comments throughout the Benghazi hearings were ludicrous. AS the head of the Dept of State she didnt know who ignored known specific terrorist threats? She didnt know who failed to act on this emails requesting assistance? She didnt know which of her own people offered up the ludicrous lie about the protests being really nothing more than a reaction to some unknown and poorly done video on youtube and who fed that lie to the UN leadership, the WH, her self? She never bothered to find out who?

    Horse****. She lied. Might just be that people are tired of the same old schtick. Or...it MIGHT be that people see in her the same thing people saw in Barrack Obama. Barrack Obama was not elected because he was the best candidate. He was elected because he was, in the words of Joe Biden, a clean, articulate, well spoken black man. Finally...they found one of those to run. Now...Hillary isnt black, but she is a woman and I reckon she is clean enough. Her voice is grating...but that wont matter. She is a woman and when she is trotted out she will be embraced, regardless of her record, regardless of her character and nature.WHen people talk lovingly of Hillary for president...how many people talk about her record? How many talk about her actual qualifications?

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And she's right, you know. We needed to be focusing at that exact moment on who attacked us, how they organized the attack, bringing them to justice and how this tragedy could be avoided in the future. Not on whether Obama said a video started it. That's just silly.
    If you are in a middle of a firefight, you dont have time to stop and ponder what got you there...you just have to win the firefight. However...thats not what was happening at the time and the REASON why it mattered was that every person in the chain of command at State that was responsible for every failure was still there and no one could (or still has yet to) identify who arbitrarily decided to ignore intel, direct requests that ended up costing people their lives, who deemed their lives unworthy of response, and who lied about the reasons for the attack in the first place. It ABSOLUTELY mattered that someone KNOWINGLY fed the public (and by the Administrations account, the administration itself) a lie which Hillary, Rice, Obama, and many others trotted out for months.

    What does it matter? Seriously?

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Indeed, I would assume her absence from politics has a bigger impact than anything else.

    PS not sure what the point is harping over the fact the guy disagrees with the article from the OP though. Seems rather pointless
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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Funny, that is not any of the reasons listed in your source. In fact your source has actual thought out reasons, primarily that people are not real happy with any politicians right now.
    The greater question might be why she was ever popular. Any accomplishments she may have are few, despite the opportunities handed to her.

    Perhaps people are ready for a real president rather than a celebrity.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Probably because sooner or later people have to realize that she's a pretty unpleasant person with a very high opinion of herself, who has been caught in numerous lies, was an ineffective Senator and Secretary of State and was only considered for those offices because she was married to a popular, albeit sleazy President who cheated on her, and who made the infamous "what difference does it make," statement.
    All true, but they have also gained much wealth and power inside Washington and few Democrat insiders want to get on the wrong side of them. She had already begun a campaign a few months ago but was advised to stop. She will start campaigning again the first chance she gets and it will be an Obama revisited campaign where we have to put away the past and look to the future. A good way as any to gloss over her history.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Benghazi...what? Just "Benghazi?" Were you planning on backing that up with anything, like a reason?
    Nope. Where does the question that I responded to require a reason that the incident in Benghazi doesn't address itself? Are you in doubt about what occurred there?

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I've watched the long exchange a number of times and my impression is unaltered.
    Why? There isn't anything in that exchange that could allow you to arrive at your conclusion.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Nope. Where does the question that I responded to require a reason that the incident in Benghazi doesn't address itself? Are you in doubt about what occurred there?
    That sounds like a prize strategy. I expect it should work about as well as when Benghazi was splashed across the news 24/7 leading up to the 2012 election.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I am more of a numbers guy and like to keep track on what is going on. Their is a lot of insights insides polls that can confirm or put to rest what one believes or not. Numbers are fun
    I agree. It just seems that some people were acting like the OP disagreeing with the article was some high crime.

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