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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    She can't escape it, MMC. No amount of brow beating, obfuscation and obstruction is going to stop me from wanting the answers, and like you, there are a lot of us. A whole lot. There are a ton of people who, if you handed them a pellet rifle on the night of that attack, would've taken it and gone in there to do what they could. I won't deny Hillary such accomplishments as she has, even though I don't think much of any of them. They are there for those who think they're important. I don't. The real essence of a person comes out in crisis, and she flopped. She put herself before her people, and to me that's unforgivable in a leader.
    Well.....like you I don't think credential as a First lady nor a token Senator of a State she was never part of gives her any experience for the Office of Presidency. Moreover countless times she has shown she could not control her own self emotionally that she would just react. That's not the sign of a steady leader. Nor can she bridge that divide. She will only make it worse in the Country if allowed to do so.

    Although one does have to giver her credit for putting up with Bilbo's ass.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm not convinced Benghazi is the major issue many make out
    Maybe not but it will certainly be mentioned. She can always fall back on the 'What difference does it make now' defense but that lacks presidential gravitas perhaps. So it\s a matter of finding some positives and I don;t see too many.

    Her plan will be simple and her supporters are already gearing up. It will attack her opponents personally, to say they hate women, will murder Gays, commit euthanasia, cut someone's hair in high school, and so on. They will Bork and Palin whoever it might be.

    If the ability to navigate washington was simply dependent on aids then some one inexperienced like Obama shouldn't be having so much issue with it.
    Hillary's camp was the first to tell the truth about Obama though his camp was the one able to capitalize on it.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well.....like you I don't think credential as a First lady nor a token Senator of a State she was never part of gives her any experience for the Office of Presidency. Moreover countless times she has shown she could not control her own self emotionally that she would just react. That's not the sign of a steady leader. Nor can she bridge that divide. She will only make it worse in the Country if allowed to do so.

    Although one does have to giver her credit for putting up with Bilbo's ass.
    I have some empathy for her as Bill's spouse as well. Tough job there, but she did ask for it, and they're both quite wealthy as a result. I've had some serious doubts about a lot of the candidates for that office of late, both left and right, and my doubts have been confirmed by recent presidents. I'm not about to give Hillary a free pass, either, any more than I would any of the other potential candidates. She's not shown a steady, steadfast hand in matters, and there's the lying weasel aspect I'll never overlook. Dodging sniper fire - give me a break.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I have some empathy for her as Bill's spouse as well. Tough job there, but she did ask for it, and they're both quite wealthy as a result. I've had some serious doubts about a lot of the candidates for that office of late, both left and right, and my doubts have been confirmed by recent presidents. I'm not about to give Hillary a free pass, either, any more than I would any of the other potential candidates. She's not shown a steady, steadfast hand in matters, and there's the lying weasel aspect I'll never overlook. Dodging sniper fire - give me a break.
    Agreed.....that BS with Romney saying Christie is needed to save the party and the country is a crock.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    CNN should know what happened in Benghazi better than Obama or Hillary. They arrived before the US Military and while Barrackary was still claiming it was a Youtube video.

    If they ever have a meeting to discover what happened in Benghazi, CNN should be allowed to testify.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I have some empathy for her as Bill's spouse as well. Tough job there, but she did ask for it, and they're both quite wealthy as a result. I've had some serious doubts about a lot of the candidates for that office of late, both left and right, and my doubts have been confirmed by recent presidents. I'm not about to give Hillary a free pass, either, any more than I would any of the other potential candidates. She's not shown a steady, steadfast hand in matters, and there's the lying weasel aspect I'll never overlook. Dodging sniper fire - give me a break.
    The funniest thing about Hillary is that she lies about the small stuff as well as the big stuff. Why tell the people of New Zealand that she was named after Sir Edmond Hillary when anyone can check that he climbed Everest well after she was born.

    Unless her parents named her after a Kiwi greengrocer her silly story was bound to be discovered. Obama's stories about his younger years are just as bad, and have been well documented.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Hillary Clinton left the State Department with a sky-high approval rating. With her broad appeal and presumed White House ambitions, the conventional wisdom, supported by early polls, suggested she would roll to the Democratic nomination in 2016 and then trounce whomever Republicans trotted out to face her.

    Yet less than a year removed from her old job, Clinton's popularity has fallen from its once-lofty heights, according to an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll out this week.

    Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?


    It is sliding because she played on the dishonest team.
    Personally I'm against it because I don't think I can stomach another Clinton, or Bush for that matter, in office. Oligarchy?

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Agreed.....that BS with Romney saying Christie is needed to save the party and the country is a crock.
    Christie isn't the guy. Never was, and never will be. Romney wasn't, even though he was better than the alternative. That's not saying much. I'll keep my powder dry until somebody shows up on the scene who'll straighten out our foreign policy, get our troops out of every stinking conflagration that comes along, get the country back on a financially and fiscally sound track, and stops this ridiculous regulation of what I have for breakfast and everything else I do. It's none of their flucking business. Haven't seen anybody viable like that yet, but it's early.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The funniest thing about Hillary is that she lies about the small stuff as well as the big stuff. Why tell the people of New Zealand that she was named after Sir Edmond Hillary when anyone can check that he climbed Everest well after she was born.

    Unless her parents named her after a Kiwi greengrocer her silly story was bound to be discovered. Obama's stories about his younger years are just as bad, and have been well documented.
    It's all about painting a false image to those who'll believe whatever they're told. If it gets them more than it costs them, they go with it. Liars and crooks seem to go hand in hand.

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    Re: Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    She was probably the best candidate of the entire dem/GOP field in 2008. That is NOT a positive comment on HC so much as it is an indictment on the entire field in 2008. Now...why is she unpopular? She is a liar...but then so are most politicians. She has avoided any responsibility and leadership in her most recent government role...maybe people are tired of the I didnt know, it wasnt my fault, and besides, it doesnt MATTER schtick. Her comments throughout the Benghazi hearings were ludicrous. AS the head of the Dept of State she didnt know who ignored known specific terrorist threats? She didnt know who failed to act on this emails requesting assistance? She didnt know which of her own people offered up the ludicrous lie about the protests being really nothing more than a reaction to some unknown and poorly done video on youtube and who fed that lie to the UN leadership, the WH, her self? She never bothered to find out who?

    Horse****. She lied. Might just be that people are tired of the same old schtick. Or...it MIGHT be that people see in her the same thing people saw in Barrack Obama. Barrack Obama was not elected because he was the best candidate. He was elected because he was, in the words of Joe Biden, a clean, articulate, well spoken black man. Finally...they found one of those to run. Now...Hillary isnt black, but she is a woman and I reckon she is clean enough. Her voice is grating...but that wont matter. She is a woman and when she is trotted out she will be embraced, regardless of her record, regardless of her character and nature.WHen people talk lovingly of Hillary for president...how many people talk about her record? How many talk about her actual qualifications?
    best answer I've read here so far.
    She gets to be the first woman president..whoopie..Bengazi was more then about lieing, it was (IMHO -though stonewalled by the CIA) weapons smuggling rockets to Syrian battlfield.

    She and Susan Rice both lied about the "Viagra rape: by Qaddafi too:
    Nato leaders, opposition groups and the media have produced a stream of stories since the start of the insurrection on 15 February, claiming the Gaddafi regime has ordered mass rapes, used foreign mercenaries and employed helicopters against civilian protesters.

    An investigation by Amnesty International has failed to find evidence for these human rights violations and in many cases has discredited or cast doubt on them. It also found indications that on several occasions the rebels in Benghazi appeared to have knowingly made false claims or manufactured evidence.

    The findings by the investigators appear to be at odds with the views of the prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, who two weeks ago told a press conference that "we have information that there was a policy to rape in Libya those who were against the government. Apparently he [Colonel Gaddafi] used it to punish people."

    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton last week said she was "deeply concerned" that Gaddafi's troops were participating in widespread rape in Libya. "Rape, physical intimidation, sexual harassment, and even so-called 'virginity tests' have taken place in countries throughout the region," she said

    Amnesty questions claim that Gaddafi ordered rape as weapon of war - Africa - World - The Independent
    In regards to the CIA annex in Bengazi being a base to smuggle weapond to Syria, it is constantly stonewalled by the CIA -

    Moreover, the CNN report alludes to the CIA supplying “surface-to-air missiles” from Benghazi to rebels in Syria, but this may only be the tip of the iceberg. The report goes on to state:

    Sources now tell CNN dozens of people working for the CIA were on the ground that night, and that the agency is going to great lengths to make sure whatever it was doing, remains a secret.
    CNN has learned the CIA is involved in what one source calls an unprecedented attempt to keep the spy agency’s Benghazi secrets from ever leaking out.

    Since January, some CIA operatives involved in the agency’s missions in Libya, have been subjected to frequent, even monthly polygraph examinations, according to a source with deep inside knowledge of the agency’s workings.
    The goal of the questioning, according to sources, is to find out if anyone is talking to the media or Congress. It is being described as pure intimidation, with the threat that any unauthorized CIA employee who leaks information could face the end of his or her career.


    Speculation on Capitol Hill has included the possibility the U.S. agencies operating in Benghazi were secretly helping to move surface-to-air missiles out of Libya, through Turkey, and into the hands of Syrian rebels CIA Gun-running, Qatar-Libya-Syria. | Global Research
    there is more about Qatar, and various sources - it's fairly evident Hillary was coving this up - maybe at her boss's request (Obama), or just because the CIA and State worked together to provide covert ops in Libya.
    The whole thing is a sordid mess, and I will not vote for her.
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