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    Re: Republican: Many in GOP donít live in political reality

    I don't have enough space for all those Democrats..
    Sen. Lee is now more unfavorable in Utah than favorable, by a 42-52%..
    Local Repub leaders are furious at him for embarrassing the state of Utah, which depends on out-of-state tourism..
    It has been made very clear to Lee by Utahans he does not represent what is best for Utah .
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    Cruz said he doesn't work for the party bosses, he works for his constituents. He's popular at home. Standing on principle is difficult for politicians because representing the special interests is where the money comes from. We need more representatives like Cruz and Lee who work for the people and not the lobbiests. I wish there was a democrat I could say the same thing about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Cruz said he doesn't work for the party bosses, he works for his constituents..
    Should Cruz's Texas constituents have to pony up the 24 billion he cost the nation??
    Which Castro do you think can take him out in 2018??
    Since Cruz's father has injected himself fully into politics with all the things he has said you've heard, he is fair game .
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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Here in Illinois, we still have a little bit of respect for the better man, as shown by the election of Sen. Kirk for President Obama's old seat..
    Much as Manchin acts like a Republican, Kirk often sides with Democrats, blunting the anti-Repub effect for his 2016 reelection..
    Kirk also has the SD Sen. Johnson-stroke effect going for him, which helped reelect Johnson for the last time in 2008 .
    What swing voters do is different than what most voters do. Unless one of your parties significantly underperformed and the other significantly over performed, then most of the people stuck with their party line. My districts swings back and forth between parties, but they tend to all be ubber conservatives with one exception who was booted out as quickly as they came in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Should Cruz's Texas constituents have to pony up the 24 billion he cost the nation??
    Which Castro do you think can take him out in 2018??
    Since Cruz's father has injected himself fully into politics with all the things he has said you've heard, he is fair game .
    Relating to my earlier post, I have to say that Bernie Sanders is true to his beliefs, just as are Cruz and Lee, although I really dislike Sanders politics. I have to give him credit.

    Going after Cruz's father would be a mistake. He's a great public speaker with a compelling personal story. He can more than handle his own.

    The democrats own this mess, 100%. They passed a poorly written partisan bill with a parliamentary trick. They didn't read it prior to it's passage and they have done a miserable job in it's implementation. The billions that the shut down may or may have not cost is a down payment on the trillions that Obamacare will cost the economy.
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    Re: Republican: Many in GOP donít live in political reality

    Do you think there is much to the stated # of 63% of voters in Republican Congressional districts that want to throw out the bums..
    Imagine if Repubs had not blown those 5 Senate seats in 2010 and 2012..
    The Senate would have switched when Lautenberg died and Mitch could have pulled the "nuclear option" plug..
    How would Christie have scheduled the election for Senate and would Christie have run for Senate, keeping the Senate Repub??
    For my money, Christie is the only Repub with a mind "global" enough to handle the 50 different primaries/caucuses..
    Just look at how Newt got thrown out in Virginia .
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    What swing voters do is different than what most voters do. Unless one of your parties significantly underperformed and the other significantly over performed, then most of the people stuck with their party line. My districts swings back and forth between parties, but they tend to all be ubber conservatives with one exception who was booted out as quickly as they came in.
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    Re: Republican: Many in GOP donít live in political reality

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    What swing voters do is different than what most voters do. Unless one of your parties significantly underperformed and the other significantly over performed, then most of the people stuck with their party line. My districts swings back and forth between parties, but they tend to all be ubber conservatives with one exception who was booted out as quickly as they came in.
    What I have observed is swing voters tend to vote the candidate without that much regard to party. It is the old am I doing better or about the same from last time or am I doing worse. Usually when they are doing worse is when they will switch from the person they voted for last time. Then there may be a hot issue that is important to them, one hot issue may decide whom they vote for with everything else forgotten.

    But the number of swing voters vary from state to state and the majority of swing voters lean towards one party over the other.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Republican: Many in GOP donít live in political reality

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    Glad to see at least one (im sure there is more) are actually connected with reality. Hope a lot more will follow Representative Rigell's example. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    The fact is any politician that has spent more than 10 years in Washington has lost track with reality and has gained that, I know what is best for my constituents attitude. They stop listening to them and become entrench in which ever party they belong to politics. But in a nut shell, one person reality is another person's fantasy land.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Republican: Many in GOP donít live in political reality

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Do you think there is much to the stated # of 63% of voters in Republican Congressional districts that want to throw out the bums..
    Imagine if Repubs had not blown those 5 Senate seats in 2010 and 2012..
    The Senate would have switched when Lautenberg died and Mitch could have pulled the "nuclear option" plug..
    How would Christie have scheduled the election for Senate and would Christie have run for Senate, keeping the Senate Repub??
    For my money, Christie is the only Repub with a mind "global" enough to handle the 50 different primaries/caucuses..
    Just look at how Newt got thrown out in Virginia .
    No, because if they throw out their current GOP rep they will just replace them with another GOP rep. There is a lot of time between now and Nov. 2014 for this to all go away for them.

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    Re: Republican: Many in GOP donít live in political reality

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    What I have observed is swing voters tend to vote the candidate without that much regard to party. It is the old am I doing better or about the same from last time or am I doing worse. Usually when they are doing worse is when they will switch from the person they voted for last time. Then there may be a hot issue that is important to them, one hot issue may decide whom they vote for with everything else forgotten.

    But the number of swing voters vary from state to state and the majority of swing voters lean towards one party over the other.
    Meh. Hard to generalize swing voters except on a district by district basis. The swing voters in my area tend to be more of the "Well, I don't know anything about them, but they haven't done anything to piss me off, so I will stick with the incumbent" voters. Some are the "I want to be on the winning side but don't have time to really do politics, so I will just follow whatever the polls say" group thinkers. I am the anti-incumbent voter as a matter of anti-establishment principle voter these days.

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    Re: Republican: Many in GOP donít live in political reality

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Relating to my earlier post, I have to say that Bernie Sanders is true to his beliefs, just as are Cruz and Lee, although I really dislike Sanders politics. I have to give him credit.
    If you spoke to Republicans in Sanders former home of Burlington, VT as well as to those he sold out for wind-farms on the Green Mountain ridges, you'd get a different POV..Sanders is reviled in the "Northeast Kingdom" for being in the back-pockets of French-Canadian wind-millers.

    Going after Cruz's father would be a mistake. He's a great public speaker with a compelling personal story. He can more than handle his own.
    Democrats already have the two Cruzs on tape and ready to go for ads..
    The democrats own this mess, 100%. They passed a poorly written partisan bill with a parliamentary trick.
    Democrats are the only ones who use Parliamentary tricks..
    Dems also helped Bush-43 out of his Medicare part D mess..Repubs right now, not so much .
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