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    Re: ENDA Now Has The Support Of Every Single Senate Democrat

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    They aren't forced to associate with anyone, businesses are free not to offer services in business areas they don't want to offer.

    If a person is against interracial marriage and runs a florist shop, they are free to not offer wedding arrangements.
    And if they do they are forced to do business with those they do not desire to do business with. It's still forcing people to associate with others. All they desire to do is sell their product to who they desire to sell it to, hire those they desire to hire, and fire those they desire to fire for the reasons they desire to pick. I don't think that is asking to much.

    I don't necessarily disagree with the concept, but trying to shroud it in the mantel of "unconstitutionally" just makes our position sound silly. A child recognizes the difference between slavery where one person own the other as property and a business who voluntarily offers services to the public being limited on the ability to discriminate.
    It's not silly since it's still slavery. If a child doesn't understand that there is different forms of slavery that is there problem. This form just so happens to be listed in the amendment itself.

    We agree on the fundamental concept, Pubic Accommodation laws are wrong - that doesnt' mean that they are illegal. Just because the government has the power to do something (and yes State level Public Accommodation laws are a power held by the States under the 10th Amendment), doesn't mean that we can support the exercising of such power.
    I don't believe the Constitution supports that case. I realize the SC disagrees with me, but I find that they are being extremely dishonest with their arguments.
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    Re: ENDA Now Has The Support Of Every Single Senate Democrat

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You are not forced to be in business. There is no violation.
    I am however forced to sign a business license to run my property as a business, which by itself is a violation of property rights.

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    Re: ENDA Now Has The Support Of Every Single Senate Democrat

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
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    I'd vote "Yes" on EDNA if it applied to government entities, not a problem with that.

    On the other hand I'd have to vote "No" on this bill and would like like to see a bill to repeal Title II of the Civil Rights act of 1964 as the Federal government shouldn't be dictating to private businesses who they serve or don't serve. (IMHO).


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    Easy to say if you're a white heterosexual male.

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    Re: ENDA Now Has The Support Of Every Single Senate Democrat

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Unfortunatley dont expect this bill to pass the house...
    I'm sure it won't even be brought up.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: ENDA Now Has The Support Of Every Single Senate Democrat

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Easy to say if you're a white heterosexual male.
    Easy to say if you are not paying the bills. In a lot of places it is already illegal to ask a job applicant about their sexual orientation but now they would be sued for discriminating based on the unknown answer to a question they cannot even legally ask.

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    Re: ENDA Now Has The Support Of Every Single Senate Democrat

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I'm sure it won't even be brought up.
    I thought this subject had been handled long ago, with all the laws on the books against discrimination, and the penalties for non-compliance! Our government seems to be the worst offender, from what I've been reading, but that's not surprising, since they seem to feel that laws that affect Business doesn't apply to them! :

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    Re: ENDA Now Has The Support Of Every Single Senate Democrat

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I am however forced to sign a business license to run my property as a business, which by itself is a violation of property rights.

    You're not forced to run a business.

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    Re: ENDA Now Has The Support Of Every Single Senate Democrat

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I thought this subject had been handled long ago, with all the laws on the books against discrimination, and the penalties for non-compliance! Our government seems to be the worst offender, from what I've been reading, but that's not surprising, since they seem to feel that laws that affect Business doesn't apply to them! :
    Congress has this habit of excluding themselves. They even excluded themselves from the civil rights legislation so any member of congress can discrimate if they wanted to. Congress also excluded themselves from the ACA. I forget the senators name who tried to get a bill passed to include congress, but he was shouted down by bothsides of the aisle.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: ENDA Now Has The Support Of Every Single Senate Democrat

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Congress has this habit of excluding themselves. They even excluded themselves from the civil rights legislation so any member of congress can discrimate if they wanted to. Congress also excluded themselves from the ACA. I forget the senators name who tried to get a bill passed to include congress, but he was shouted down by bothsides of the aisle.
    And we wonder why Congress seems like a perfect example of what a disfunctional joke looks like? You just posted a good example! And the saddest thing is that they don't care what we think about them! They're gonna do what they want to do, it appears! Disgusting...

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    Re: ENDA Now Has The Support Of Every Single Senate Democrat

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    And we wonder why Congress seems like a perfect example of what a disfunctional joke looks like? You just posted a good example! And the saddest thing is that they don't care what we think about them! They're gonna do what they want to do, it appears! Disgusting...
    As long as we keep re-election the same old ones. Yes they will just continue on with business as usual. Excluding themselves from every law they pass.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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