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    Alabama Man Hires KKK member to Kill Neighbor like an Animal

    So I find this story interesting for a variety of reasons. Here is are the main points:

    An Alabama man admitted Thursday to trying to hire a man he believed was a Ku Klux Klansman to kill his neighbor, who is black and a registered sex offender.

    Authorities said Morgan told agents that he’d tried to “force a confrontation” with his neighbor Aug. 22 by firing “multiple rounds of ammunition” at him on the street outside their homes.

    Agents said the man ran away, and Morgan assumed he must be guilty of raping his wife because the neighbor did not try to stand his ground or reason with him.

    An undercover FBI agent called Morgan a short time later, identified himself as a Klansman and asked him whether he wanted to “murder” his neighbor.

    Morgan was arrested after the meeting and confessed that he’d wanted to hire hitmen to kill his neighbors.


    First of all WOW, what an idiot. The points I find interesting are

    1. The mentality here. He is going to kill someone, like an animal, based on nothing more then his own fear and suspicion and apparently he has the firearms needed to carry that out. Awesome.
    2. I am, of course, very troubled by the presence and seemingly casual acceptance of the KKK being avaible for hire to kill but there is not enough in the story about that issue to address it here or support my thinking about it being commonplace.
    3. He was trying to use the stand your ground premise to provoke a confrontation. Clearly, so that he could do it himself and justify it with the law
    4. The technique the police used to set him up. I have a problem with this one. The guy is clearly an idiot but who knows if, in time ,he wouldn't have calmed down and let it go. Seems like the police forced the issue by offering him the service of a hit man.

    Tell me what you think.

    Here is a link to the Alabama SYG law Alabama Stand Your Ground - Castle Doctrine Law

    The story http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/2...ike-an-animal/
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    Re: Alabama Man Hires KKK member to Kill Neighbor like an Animal

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    So I find this story interesting for a variety of reasons. Here is are the main points:

    An Alabama man admitted Thursday to trying to hire a man he believed was a Ku Klux Klansman to kill his neighbor, who is black and a registered sex offender.

    Authorities said Morgan told agents that he’d tried to “force a confrontation” with his neighbor Aug. 22 by firing “multiple rounds of ammunition” at him on the street outside their homes.

    Agents said the man ran away, and Morgan assumed he must be guilty of raping his wife because the neighbor did not try to stand his ground or reason with him.

    An undercover FBI agent called Morgan a short time later, identified himself as a Klansman and asked him whether he wanted to “murder” his neighbor.

    Morgan was arrested after the meeting and confessed that he’d wanted to hire hitmen to kill his neighbors.


    First of all WOW, what an idiot. The points I find interesting are

    1. The mentality here. He is going to kill someone, like an animal, based on nothing more then his own fear and suspicion and apparently he has the firearms needed to carry that out. Awesome.
    2. I am, of course, very troubled by the presence and seemingly casual acceptance of the KKK being avaible for hire to kill but there is not enough in the story about that issue to address it here or support my thinking about it being commonplace.
    3. He was trying to use the stand your ground premise to provoke a confrontation. Clearly, so that he could do it himself and justify it with the law
    4. The technique the police used to set him up. I have a problem with this one. The guy is clearly an idiot but who knows if, in time ,he wouldn't have calmed down and let it go. Seems like the police forced the issue by offering him the service of a hit man.

    Tell me what you think.

    Here is a link to the Alabama SYG law Alabama Stand Your Ground - Castle Doctrine Law

    The story Alabama man admits to hiring ‘Klansman’ to hang black neighbor ‘like an animal’ | The Raw Story
    If this were to have happen in NYC, Chicago, los Angels, etc. the undercover FBI agent would have probably identified himself as being a SEIU thug.

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    Re: Alabama Man Hires KKK member to Kill Neighbor like an Animal

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post

    3. He was trying to use the stand your ground premise to provoke a confrontation. Clearly, so that he could do it himself and justify it with the law
    Major reason why I do not like this "stand your ground" law.
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    Re: Alabama Man Hires KKK member to Kill Neighbor like an Animal

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    So I find this story interesting for a variety of reasons. Here is are the main points:

    An Alabama man admitted Thursday to trying to hire a man he believed was a Ku Klux Klansman to kill his neighbor, who is black and a registered sex offender.

    Authorities said Morgan told agents that he’d tried to “force a confrontation” with his neighbor Aug. 22 by firing “multiple rounds of ammunition” at him on the street outside their homes.

    Agents said the man ran away, and Morgan assumed he must be guilty of raping his wife because the neighbor did not try to stand his ground or reason with him.

    An undercover FBI agent called Morgan a short time later, identified himself as a Klansman and asked him whether he wanted to “murder” his neighbor.

    Morgan was arrested after the meeting and confessed that he’d wanted to hire hitmen to kill his neighbors.


    First of all WOW, what an idiot. The points I find interesting are

    1. The mentality here. He is going to kill someone, like an animal, based on nothing more then his own fear and suspicion and apparently he has the firearms needed to carry that out. Awesome.
    2. I am, of course, very troubled by the presence and seemingly casual acceptance of the KKK being avaible for hire to kill but there is not enough in the story about that issue to address it here or support my thinking about it being commonplace.
    3. He was trying to use the stand your ground premise to provoke a confrontation. Clearly, so that he could do it himself and justify it with the law
    4. The technique the police used to set him up. I have a problem with this one. The guy is clearly an idiot but who knows if, in time ,he wouldn't have calmed down and let it go. Seems like the police forced the issue by offering him the service of a hit man.

    Tell me what you think.

    Here is a link to the Alabama SYG law Alabama Stand Your Ground - Castle Doctrine Law

    The story Alabama man admits to hiring ‘Klansman’ to hang black neighbor ‘like an animal’ | The Raw Story


    So he hired a Democrat ?

    Because the KKK is exclusive to the same party that filibustered the voting rights act in 1964.
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    " Return to Power By Any Means Necessary "

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    Re: Alabama Man Hires KKK member to Kill Neighbor like an Animal

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Major reason why I do not like this "stand your ground" law.



    Hold the phone and everybody chill.


    "stand your ground" isn't going to protect you if you STARTED the shootout.


    Just because some dumbass whose elevator OBVIOUSLY does NOT go all the way to the top floor THINKS it would, does not mean it would.


    /topic

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    Re: Alabama Man Hires KKK member to Kill Neighbor like an Animal

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Major reason why I do not like this "stand your ground" law.
    Exactly. When this law was all over the site because the the Trayvon Martin case I saw several examples of it being used to mask intent by the shooter and get then...get them off the hook.
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    Re: Alabama Man Hires KKK member to Kill Neighbor like an Animal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So he hired a Democrat ?

    Because the KKK is exclusive to the same party that filibustered the voting rights act in 1964.
    Yes yes, just like all whites are slave owners because some whites used to own slaves, and all "Conservatives" are idiots because some "Conservatives" can't rise above grade-school trolling.
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    Re: Alabama Man Hires KKK member to Kill Neighbor like an Animal

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Hold the phone and everybody chill.


    "stand your ground" isn't going to protect you if you STARTED the shootout.


    Just because some dumbass whose elevator OBVIOUSLY does NOT go all the way to the top floor THINKS it would, does not mean it would.


    /topic

    That's what I was thinking -- the perp would be relying on being the only one left alive to tell the story, one witness or piece of contradictory evidence would prove the story false.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Alabama Man Hires KKK member to Kill Neighbor like an Animal

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Hold the phone and everybody chill.


    "stand your ground" isn't going to protect you if you STARTED the shootout.

    Just because some dumbass whose elevator OBVIOUSLY does NOT go all the way to the top floor THINKS it would, does not mean it would.

    /topic
    Unfortunately, there are many instances of this very thing taking place and the shooter getting off by using this law. It is not a matter of who starts it, you can SAY whatever you want. If you rattle someone enough that they loose their cool and punch you or doing anything else that makes you feel threatened..BOOM....you get to shoot them. Because YOU get to decide. If the other guy is dead he can't say..."he started it" .
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    Re: Alabama Man Hires KKK member to Kill Neighbor like an Animal

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Unfortunately, there are many instances of this very thing taking place and the shooter getting off by using this law. It is not a matter of who starts it, you can SAY whatever you want. If you rattle someone enough that they loose their cool and punch you or doing anything else that makes you feel threatened..BOOM....you get to shoot them. Because YOU get to decide. If the other guy is dead he can't say..."he started it" .

    Just because it MAY (possibly, we don't know) have happened in the Z/M case does not mean it is happening all over the country like an epidemic.

    If you have stats proving that, post them.

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