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Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare web

Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

Well, I'd think it would take a lot more evidence than the fact that Michelle Obama may or may not have known someone in school to prove wrong doing. Even if she did, does this mean it's necessarily a conflict of interest to end up doing business with someone you (or your spouse) went to school with?
 
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Only 15% of the 1985 Princeton graduating class were black students and you still think Obama and Toni Townes-Whitley didn't know each other?

I have a drawbridge to to sell you in west Texas; cheap.

The following statements are on the 1985 Princeton alumni website. Look at #4. Maybe this is where they got the idea for Obamacare and how to manage the government.

Top 5 Reasons to Pay Your Dues
1. It is the right thing to do
2. It pays for your PAW subscription
3. It helps pay for all non-reunions class activities
4. If you don't, you are asking other classmates to subsidize you
5. You want to join the honor roll!

Princeton University Class of '85
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

Just when you think conservatives have gone as stupid as possible, they shock you and go further. There are over 7500 students at Princeton. Modestly, there where about 1000 in her class maybe. So clearly there must be shady dealings. Now I understand better why you guys never let go of the birther nonsense. Obama is black. Most people in Kenya are black. Surely it can't be coincidence...

Did you know that Stephen Greenblatt was a classmate of George Bush? Clearly, Bush must have helped him get his Pulitzer. Lars Onsager was a classmate too, so now we know how he got his Nobel prize. David Kennedy, another Pulitzer Bush got for some one, another classmate. Richard Brodhead, president of Duke University, Bush classmate. Surely he must have gotten Bush's help to get such a prestigious job. And several other rather high profile people.

Thank God you're here to provide balance.
Please explain to everyone why out of more than a dozen firms that are listed as qualified for Government work (yes, that's funny in and of itself) the Obama's chose the CGI bid without even reviewing any others ...
and then after getting the contract, CGI's President became a campaign donor to USA's President.
I know, I know, you're gonna say that's done all the time in politics.
But imagine how much money, how many votes, and how much campaign groundwork is gonna come back to the Democrat Party at election time given all the contracts and Community Organizations tapped for the Obamacare rollout ... not to mention all the new dependents/voters targeted by ACA ... no, it's unprecedented.
So ... let's have the balance.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

Michelle Obama's Princeton classmate was Obamacare website builder | The Daily Caller

Company management biographies - Toni Townes-Whitley | CGI.com



Association of Black Princeton Alumni

Well well well, look who's listed in the same graduating class. Does anyone remember what the Left said about Cheney and Halliburton?

I see you appear to believe that correlation = causation. You might want to check that with your local Logics professor.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

Really, I thought it was about cronyism...but for you it's about race, huh? Why am I not surprised?

Yes, and you're trying to disassociate the two women by ignoring their association in the black alumni group.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

Μολὼν λαβέ;1062468993 said:
Only 15% of the 1985 Princeton graduating class were black students and you still think Obama and Toni Townes-Whitley didn't know each other?

I have a drawbridge to to sell you in west Texas; cheap.

The following statements are on the 1985 Princeton alumni website. Look at #4. Maybe this is where they got the idea for Obamacare and how to manage the government.

Top 5 Reasons to Pay Your Dues
1. It is the right thing to do
2. It pays for your PAW subscription
3. It helps pay for all non-reunions class activities
4. If you don't, you are asking other classmates to subsidize you
5. You want to join the honor roll!

Princeton University Class of '85

Reading comprehension for the win! No one has to my knowledge claimed they did not know each other, only that there is no evidence they did, and further even if they did know each other, that is not evidence that there is corruption here. I know lots of people I don't even like. But keep this kind of stupid **** up, it makes you guys look silly, and makes us look good in comparison. Thank you for making us look good.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

Thank God you're here to provide balance.
Please explain to everyone why out of more than a dozen firms that are listed as qualified for Government work (yes, that's funny in and of itself) the Obama's chose the CGI bid without even reviewing any others ...
and then after getting the contract, CGI's President became a campaign donor to USA's President.
I know, I know, you're gonna say that's done all the time in politics.
But imagine how much money, how many votes, and how much campaign groundwork is gonna come back to the Democrat Party at election time given all the contracts and Community Organizations tapped for the Obamacare rollout ... not to mention all the new dependents/voters targeted by ACA ... no, it's unprecedented.
So ... let's have the balance.

So even you can't offer evidence that this classmate affected who got the contract. Well done!
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

So even you can't offer evidence that this classmate affected who got the contract. Well done!

That sentence was incomprehensible ... give it another shot.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

Yes, and you're trying to disassociate the two women by ignoring their association in the black alumni group.

Have you offered any evidence they do? Any that they are friends? Any evidence at all? Why no you have not.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

That sentence was incomprehensible ... give it another shot.

You got no evidence of wrongdoing. None. Not the least little bit of evidence that Michelle Obama persuaded President Obama to give the contract to the company that employs some one she might have, maybe, known.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

I think it's always interesting to view something like this as if it happened to someone in the the other political party. Say Laura Bush went to school with someone who became the CEO of a company that ended up with a big government contract. Would liberals give her or George Bush the benefit of the doubt? And, to be fair, would conservatives be so eager to suggest there must be some connection or would we complain about liberals jumping to unsubstantiated conclusions?
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

I think it's always interesting to view something like this as if it happened to someone in the the other political party. Say Laura Bush went to school with someone who became the CEO of a company that ended up with a big government contract. Would liberals give her or George Bush the benefit of the doubt? And, to be fair, would conservatives be so eager to suggest there must be some connection or would we complain about liberals jumping to unsubstantiated conclusions?

True enough ... but watching Redress scramble is kinda fun.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

I think it's always interesting to view something like this as if it happened to someone in the the other political party. Say Laura Bush went to school with someone who became the CEO of a company that ended up with a big government contract. Would liberals give her or George Bush the benefit of the doubt? And, to be fair, would conservatives be so eager to suggest there must be some connection or would we complain about liberals jumping to unsubstantiated conclusions?

I have never accused Bush nor Cheney of corruption. That should answer your question.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

True enough ... but watching Redress scramble is kinda fun.

I am not scrambling, I am laughing at you guys. This is painfully retarded stuff, and you guys are drooling over it like Pavlov's dogs, despite having exactly zero evidence of wrongdoing.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

I think it's always interesting to view something like this as if it happened to someone in the the other political party. Say Laura Bush went to school with someone who became the CEO of a company that ended up with a big government contract. Would liberals give her or George Bush the benefit of the doubt? And, to be fair, would conservatives be so eager to suggest there must be some connection or would we complain about liberals jumping to unsubstantiated conclusions?

I'm a liberal and I sure wouldn't have complained about it. Especially is Laura Bush had gone to Princeton, and especially if the company had been contracted by the government in the past, including under a different President whose wife didn't know the CEO. It's fine to ask questions, but there has to be a lot more proof than mere speculation to allege cronyism here.

And responding to others, Cheney was profiting from Halliburton up until he was the VP and that particular company became extremely wealthy because of a war we went to that is largely thought of as a mistake and based on incorrect information (or lies, depending on who you ask). That's a claim that also requires a lot of proof, but it's much more damaging than another Princeton graduate getting a contract for a website, even if it's worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

I have never accused Bush nor Cheney of corruption. That should answer your question.

Ok, well and I haven't accused Michelle Obama of anything, so, what's your point? You think that means no liberal would be trying to draw those connections?
 
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Hey everybody ... we mustn't forget the model Obama used before for Lightsquared and Solyndra ... it's big bucks and it worked well ... and he's VERY good at it


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Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

Ok, well and I haven't accused Michelle Obama of anything, so, what's your point? You think that means no liberal would be trying to draw those connections?

What do I care what other liberals think, and what do other liberals have to do with the facts of this "story"?
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

I am not scrambling, I am laughing at you guys. This is painfully retarded stuff, and you guys are drooling over it like Pavlov's dogs, despite having exactly zero evidence of wrongdoing.

heh heh ... you're sounding more frantic with every post ... take a break ... wipe the spittle off your screen
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

Reading comprehension for the win! No one has to my knowledge claimed they did not know each other, only that there is no evidence they did, and further even if they did know each other, that is not evidence that there is corruption here. I know lots of people I don't even like. But keep this kind of stupid **** up, it makes you guys look silly, and makes us look good in comparison. Thank you for making us look good.

I know you're familiar with stating stupid things. Just look in my sig line. If you think defending any Obama makes you look good, well that's really stupid. But I say go for it.
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

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Hey everybody ... we mustn't forget the model Obama used before for Lightsquared and Solyndra ... it's big bucks and it worked well ... and he's VERY good at it




Being the nice person I am, I am going to teach you a bit about debate: off topic **** is off topic. Please let me know if there is anything else I can school you on.

Do you have any facts to suggest the contract was awarded due to some one who attended the same school as Michelle Obama? Bet you don't. Stupid images won't change that fact.
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1062469058 said:
I know you're familiar with stating stupid things. Just look in my sig line. If you think defending any Obama makes you look good, well that's really stupid. But I say go for it.

I do not hesistate to defend any one from stupid attacks. I have defended Bush and Cheney from stupid attacks to. If you think stupid attacks are ok when you don't like the person being attacked, that shows a flaw with you, not Obama.
 
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heh heh ... you're sounding more frantic with every post ... take a break ... wipe the spittle off your screen

I am having a blast actually. Watching people look silly is fun.
 
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.....Does anyone remember what the Left said about Cheney and Halliburton?

Brief history of Haliburton:

1. Early 1990s. Cheney, as Secretary of Defense, gives contracts to Halliburton to rebuild facilities in Kuwait that had been destroyed in the first Persian Gulf war.

2. Early 1990 to 1993. Cheney, as Secretary of Defense, commissions Halliburton to do a classified (secret) study concerning replacing the U.S. military's logistics by work done by private companies. Halliburton says, yes, a company can do the work. In August 1992, with essentially no bidding, Halliburton is selected by the US Army Corps of Engineers to do all work needed to support the military for the next five years! Thereafter, Halliburton (or its subsidiary KBR) and its military logistics business escalated rapidly. In the ten years thereafter revenues totaled $2.5 billion.

3. 1995-2000. Cheney is CEO of Halliburton. Under Cheney, Halliburton increases its offshore tax havens from 9 to 44, cutting its taxes from $302 million in 1998 to an $85 million refund in 1999. That's almost $400 million they took from taxpayers in one year.

4. During Cheney's tenure at Haliburton, Halliburton did business with countries like Azerbaijan, Indonesia, Iraq, Libya, Iran, and Nigeria even though the US had imposed strict sanctions on them. They skirted sanctions, and they lobbied against sanctions. Some of this business was illegal, and Halliburton was fined for it.

5. Spring 2000. Cheney heads Bush's Vice-Presidential Search committee --while continuing as CEO of Halliburton. He ends up picking himself as Vice President.

6. July 2000. Cheney is asked whether Halliburton or its subsidaries were trying to do business with Iraq. He says no; he had a firm policy that they wouldn't do anything in Iraq, even if it was legal. This was a blatant lie: subsidiaries sold over $73 million in oil-production parts to Iraq.

7. 2000. As CEO of Halliburton, Cheney clears $20 million in one year, after taxes.

8. July 2000. Cheney's severance package from Halliburton (as CEO) is far and above what other company officers got when they left --some say it is as high as $62 million in stocks and stock options.

9. December 2001. KBR (Halliburton subsidiary) is granted an open-ended contract for Army troops supply and Navy construction, wherever U.S. troops go, for the next 10 years (so far, Afghanistan, the Philippines, Yemen, Iraq). This unique contract has no ceiling on cost. KBR is reimbursed for every dollar spent plus a base fee of 1 percent, which guarantees profit. Plus, they can get a bonus as a percentage of company costs.

10. January 2003. Bush sends a letter to Congress exercising his authority, as president, to waive section 9007, thus removing sanctions and allowing assistance to oil-rich Azerbaijan (see point 4). This administration invites the head of Azerbaijan to the White House, even though this person was the main reason for earlier sanctions against Azerbaijan. Reason? Azerbaijan has oil.

11. September 2003. Cheney states that when he became Vice President, he severed all ties with Halliburton, as required by law. This was a lie. Government accounting offices said that the compensation he continues to receive is a conflict of interest.

12. Dec 2003. Halliburton, without competitive bidding, is given a contract to restore the Iraqi oil sector. It is billed initially as a contract for putting out oil-well fires, something in which Halliburton has little expertise. It turns out that the contract is really for the full restoration of the oil business in Iraq. It is kept secret because of the "emergency conditions". It is one of the highest military logistics contracts in history.

13. June 2004. Cheney has said all along that he had no contact with government officials who coordinated Halliburtons many contracts with the military. A March 2003 Pentagon email refutes this claim. It says that action on a no-bid Halliburton contract to rebuild Iraq's oil industry was "coordinated" with Cheney's office. This has to do with a no-bid contract given to Halliburton for rebuilding Iraq.

14. August 2004. The SEC (Security Exchange Comission) levies a fine of $7.5 million on Halliburton for illegal accounting changes in 1998, when Cheney was CEO of Halliburton. Some people think that politics may have shielded Cheney and others from being held more accountable.

Conflict of interest: Haliburton
 
Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

What do I care what other liberals think, and what do other liberals have to do with the facts of this "story"?

Because you told me that because you hadn't personally accused Cheney of being corrupt, that should "answer my question". You tell me, how does that answer my question? I haven't accused Michelle Obama of anything, yet you have no trouble talking about "conservatives" being lame and birthers or whatever.
 
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