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    Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

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    Brief history of Haliburton:

    1. Early 1990s. Cheney, as Secretary of Defense, gives contracts to Halliburton to rebuild facilities in Kuwait that had been destroyed in the first Persian Gulf war.

    2. Early 1990 to 1993. Cheney, as Secretary of Defense, commissions Halliburton to do a classified (secret) study concerning replacing the U.S. military's logistics by work done by private companies. Halliburton says, yes, a company can do the work. In August 1992, with essentially no bidding, Halliburton is selected by the US Army Corps of Engineers to do all work needed to support the military for the next five years! Thereafter, Halliburton (or its subsidiary KBR) and its military logistics business escalated rapidly. In the ten years thereafter revenues totaled $2.5 billion.

    3. 1995-2000. Cheney is CEO of Halliburton. Under Cheney, Halliburton increases its offshore tax havens from 9 to 44, cutting its taxes from $302 million in 1998 to an $85 million refund in 1999. That's almost $400 million they took from taxpayers in one year.

    4. During Cheney's tenure at Haliburton, Halliburton did business with countries like Azerbaijan, Indonesia, Iraq, Libya, Iran, and Nigeria even though the US had imposed strict sanctions on them. They skirted sanctions, and they lobbied against sanctions. Some of this business was illegal, and Halliburton was fined for it.

    5. Spring 2000. Cheney heads Bush's Vice-Presidential Search committee --while continuing as CEO of Halliburton. He ends up picking himself as Vice President.

    6. July 2000. Cheney is asked whether Halliburton or its subsidaries were trying to do business with Iraq. He says no; he had a firm policy that they wouldn't do anything in Iraq, even if it was legal. This was a blatant lie: subsidiaries sold over $73 million in oil-production parts to Iraq.

    7. 2000. As CEO of Halliburton, Cheney clears $20 million in one year, after taxes.

    8. July 2000. Cheney's severance package from Halliburton (as CEO) is far and above what other company officers got when they left --some say it is as high as $62 million in stocks and stock options.

    9. December 2001. KBR (Halliburton subsidiary) is granted an open-ended contract for Army troops supply and Navy construction, wherever U.S. troops go, for the next 10 years (so far, Afghanistan, the Philippines, Yemen, Iraq). This unique contract has no ceiling on cost. KBR is reimbursed for every dollar spent plus a base fee of 1 percent, which guarantees profit. Plus, they can get a bonus as a percentage of company costs.

    10. January 2003. Bush sends a letter to Congress exercising his authority, as president, to waive section 9007, thus removing sanctions and allowing assistance to oil-rich Azerbaijan (see point 4). This administration invites the head of Azerbaijan to the White House, even though this person was the main reason for earlier sanctions against Azerbaijan. Reason? Azerbaijan has oil.

    11. September 2003. Cheney states that when he became Vice President, he severed all ties with Halliburton, as required by law. This was a lie. Government accounting offices said that the compensation he continues to receive is a conflict of interest.

    12. Dec 2003. Halliburton, without competitive bidding, is given a contract to restore the Iraqi oil sector. It is billed initially as a contract for putting out oil-well fires, something in which Halliburton has little expertise. It turns out that the contract is really for the full restoration of the oil business in Iraq. It is kept secret because of the "emergency conditions". It is one of the highest military logistics contracts in history.

    13. June 2004. Cheney has said all along that he had no contact with government officials who coordinated Halliburtons many contracts with the military. A March 2003 Pentagon email refutes this claim. It says that action on a no-bid Halliburton contract to rebuild Iraq's oil industry was "coordinated" with Cheney's office. This has to do with a no-bid contract given to Halliburton for rebuilding Iraq.

    14. August 2004. The SEC (Security Exchange Comission) levies a fine of $7.5 million on Halliburton for illegal accounting changes in 1998, when Cheney was CEO of Halliburton. Some people think that politics may have shielded Cheney and others from being held more accountable.

    Conflict of interest: Haliburton
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    Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

    I want to know about the bidding process. I know what is customary and what isn't, and the fact hasn't been settled whether CGI General was a sole-source contract or not. HHS says it wasn't. Was this, essentially, a no-bid contract? Was an RFP published or not?

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    Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    But but but...Michelle went to school with that chick!
    I don't see much here regarding Michelle Obama but, before you get too too smug, let's be real, some people will come to the defense of anything Obama. I learned that with Bengahzi. I was disappointed with how many seemed more interested in circling the wagons than getting to the bottom of it. I can say that I would be pissed about how that happened regardless of the party of the person in White House.

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    Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't see much here regarding Michelle Obama but, before you get too too smug, let's be real, some people will come to the defense of anything Obama. I learned that with Bengahzi. I was disappointed with how many seemed more interested in circling the wagons than getting to the bottom of it. I can say that I would be pissed about how that happened regardless of the party of the person in White House.
    Well that is novel. Thread fails, but by god got to bitch and whine about something, so let's spun Benghazi. Hey, why don't you bring in that Obama isn't really a natural born citizen too since we are going to just go with random nonsense now.
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    Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't see much here regarding Michelle Obama but, before you get too too smug, let's be real, some people will come to the defense of anything Obama. I learned that with Bengahzi. I was disappointed with how many seemed more interested in circling the wagons than getting to the bottom of it. I can say that I would be pissed about how that happened regardless of the party of the person in White House.
    My snarl was in reply to the OPs claim that being in the same class as someone who works for a company that got a no bid contract is the same as being CEO of a company that got no bid contracts.

    There's some official shady going on at Halliburton under Cheney. And he was still getting some compensation from them as vice president, right?

    In same class as is not equal to being CEO of.

    Time will tell, and it COULD have been inappropriate.

    But this is more like a pile of iron ore and some sulphur than a smoking gun.
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    Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well that is novel. Thread fails, but by god got to bitch and whine about something, so let's spun Benghazi. Hey, why don't you bring in that Obama isn't really a natural born citizen too since we are going to just go with random nonsense now.
    I've never bought into this thread but yes, I think Bengahzi was a disgrace which is something I thought pretty much everyone could agree on. I was wrong about that, though. Apparently it's better to ignore it (and actually get pissed at the people pissed about it) than to accept anything that might cast Obama in any kind of a bad light.

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    Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

    Bad enough that Obama sent 600 million tax dollars to Canada to do something that could have should have been done in America but this Michelle friend thing really puts it over the top.

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    Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Bad enough that Obama sent 600 million tax dollars to Canada to do something that could have should have been done in America but this Michelle friend thing really puts it over the top.
    It's an American company, subsidiary of a Canadian company; the work went to Americans, and the office is in America.

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    Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
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    Being the nice person I am
    Well, THAT made you sound a little full of yourself
    But are you okay now? Hope you've calmed yourself down.

    I am going to teach you a bit about debate: off topic **** is off topic.
    Lemme explain ... topic is political cronyism ... Solyndra ... Lightsquared ... now CGI ... big bucks, and I mean BIG bucks, and then campaign bucks in return.
    Now do you understand? It's an age old game but seldom as massive or obvious as it is with this guy. But it has been working thanks to apologists inside - and outside - the media.

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    Re: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well that is novel. Thread fails, but by god got to bitch and whine about something, so let's spun Benghazi. Hey, why don't you bring in that Obama isn't really a natural born citizen too since we are going to just go with random nonsense now.
    To be fair, you seem to be the one doing the most bitching about this and bringing up birther trash talk and other nonsense, so seems a little hypocritical to call out someone for bringing up Benghazi, isn't it?
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