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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post

    Only 41% of Americans support the ACA.
    , and that is post-shutdown.
    yes, but the gap between those who oppose and those in favor has narrowed if you use RCP which list 6 polls and gains an average. Prior the the shutdown the gap was 14-19 point in favor of oppose, after the shutdown the gap narrowed to 4-10 points among those six polls. Now with the shutdown over, the web site problems I am still looking for some new polls to find out if the web site problems if the polls returned to the pre-shutdown numbers or perhaps have remained constant.

    Regardless of one views on the ACA or political ideology, the shutdown gave the ACA a shot in the arm.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The implementation of the internet site is one portion of her job. There's been much more muckups in the past 20 years with much worse consequences that didn't result in resignations. So lets say...the website has all the kinks worked out of it (a flawless launch in my opinion is pretty much impossible) in a couple of months. That's why you think she should lose her job? Because the initial launch of a computer site that taps in to multiple databases that were never built to be used in such a manner is resignation in disgrace worthy? Something tells me you would never want such a high bar applied to yourself.
    You only say this because you have no clue how the ACA is supposed to work. For you it is a poor dirty baby at one end and a wonderfully healthy Democrat voter at the other with a bunch of rainbows and unicorns filling the immense gap in your knowledge between those two points.

    The Website is the crux of the ACA success. No phone bank can channel enough applicants to insurance coverage to make the books balance come 2014. To hit the warm body goals they need the website. Granted, this assumes that pending court cases don't render the website pointless and the ACA essentially dead without further legislation. Looks like Nancy Pelosi should have proof read the thing before passing it...

    Not only that, but the success of ACA not only depends on sufficient masses buying into the plan, but it also is relying on sufficient numbers of healthy young Americans wanting to actually pay for insurance they won't use rather than for food and housing that they will.
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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    yes, but the gap between those who oppose and those in favor has narrowed if you use RCP which list 6 polls and gains an average. Prior the the shutdown the gap was 14-19 point in favor of oppose, after the shutdown the gap narrowed to 4-10 points among those six polls. Now with the shutdown over, the web site problems I am still looking for some new polls to find out if the web site problems if the polls returned to the pre-shutdown numbers or perhaps have remained constant.

    Regardless of one views on the ACA or political ideology, the shutdown gave the ACA a shot in the arm.
    The "shot in the arm" was back before the sticker shock and gross mismanagement had really started to sink in. So yeah, good luck with that.

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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You only say this because you have no clue how the ACA is supposed to work. For you it is a poor dirty baby at one end and a wonderfully healthy Democrat voter at the other with a bunch of rainbows and unicorns filling the immense gap in your knowledge between those two points.
    Not sure what that's based on or even what you're talking about. I know exactly how the ACA is supposed to work.

    The Website is the crux of the ACA success. No phone bank can channel enough applicants to insurance coverage to make the books balance come 2014. To hit the warm body goals they need the website.
    Sure...but technology happens...I've never seen a major rollout of something with this scale roll out without a hitch. Also...I'm not sure what you mean about making the books balance. As long as the website prevents people from enrolling the open enrollment should be pushed back and the mandate requirement should be pushed back. Once the kinks are worked out then you can end open enrollment and start penalizing. There is 5 months until open enrollment ends.

    Not only that, but the success not only depends on sufficient masses buying into the plan, but it also is relying on sufficient numbers of healthy young Americans wanting to actually pay for insurance they won't use rather than for food and housing that they will.
    Of course...that's the purpose of the individual mandate. Wait...I think I know what you're talking about. When I got my haircut at the barbarshop yesterday the old man that runs it had his normal fox news on. Bill O'Reily had this grand narrative.....

    Only sick people will sit through the time required to sign up so all these insurance companies will only be getting sick people.

    You're crazy if that's not what you think would happen anyway. All the sick people now able to get insurance would flood in and get insurance. Healthy people would wait until the last minute to sign up. No insurance company is going down because for a month or two they have more sick people than normal.........
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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Since you missed civics class: She works for the American people.
    No, she works for a private contractor
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    as is usual, you are hedging

    the woman told the truth. she works for the person who appointed her to her position
    not for those who oppose her being successful in her efforts

    a typical non-story
    faux news sourced
    anyone else not surprised
    Does Obama pay her salary and benefits? NO, therefor she works for the people who actually do pay for her services. And I must say we got nothing for her services, but then you have to look at who appointed her, that was Obama, one idiot appointing another idiot.
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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Does Obama pay her salary and benefits? NO, therefor she works for the people who actually do pay for her services. And I must say we got nothing for her services, but then you have to look at who appointed her, that was Obama, one idiot appointing another idiot.
    nope
    Obama is her immediate report
    he alone is responsible for determining whether she is doing an acceptable job or not
    which is why she works for the fellow who appointed her

    not saying Obama has a knack for selecting people with talent. he doesn't. but then we selected him
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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    The Obamacare site sucks--no Words With Friends, no news feeds, no cat memes--she should be fired.

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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    The Obamacare site sucks--no Words With Friends, no news feeds, no cat memes--she should be fired.
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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    nope
    Obama is her immediate report
    he alone is responsible for determining whether she is doing an acceptable job or not
    which is why she works for the fellow who appointed her

    not saying Obama has a knack for selecting people with talent. he doesn't. but then we selected him
    Personally, I hope that Obama stays true to character, and refuses to acknowledge reality, and leave her in place spewing arrogance all the way....It is the best negative PR no money could buy.
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