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Sebelius: ‘I Don’t Work For’ People Who Want Me to Resign [W:105]

Looks like you have to derail and deflect to cover for your savior's crooked minion. Her department's contract appears corrupt as well as the product they purchased.

Does 33 House members represent 1/2 of the population? That's not even 1/3 of the Republicans in the House. Zimmer says it's more than half of the population. Whether these 33 people are correct or not, they're nowhere near 1/2 of the population, and not even 1/2 of their own party.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

Since you missed civics class: She works for the American people.

That has a very limited span of influence.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

It seems strange that the Liberal cattle have no conception whatsoever of how little regard their leaders have for them. Somehow they think they are special and should defend those who care nothing about them. It is strange to be so gullible.

I know it's like watching Conservatives whenever someone says anything about Fox. In fact, we've seen it in this thread.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

Obama needs a scapegoat, she's a perfect candidate. Democrats in Congress are pissed because they supported this POS, and are now getting ****ed by an incompetent implementation of the law through software glitches so amateurish as to be globlally laughable. I think think they'll eventually get onboard for this resignation because it takes the heat off Obama.

You may be right, but let's see what happens.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

Obama needs a scapegoat, she's a perfect candidate. Democrats in Congress are pissed because they supported this POS, and are now getting ****ed by an incompetent implementation of the law through software glitches so amateurish as to be globlally laughable. I think think they'll eventually get onboard for this resignation because it takes the heat off Obama.

The purpose of a oversight Commitee is to find out what went wrong and work toward a solution at fixing the problems. Why is finding a scapegoat so important right now.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

Ahhhh, here comes your personal attack.

and your baseless meta post
offered up to fill the void since you are unable to refute my argument
 
This reminds of when Dick Cheney said he didn't care what the American people thought.



Cut from the same cloth? Absolutely, but I seem to remember Conservatives having a different opinion then.


Yeah...no joke....an internet site crashes *****ing outrage!* "heads need to roll!"
Invade a country under false pretenses....*crickets*
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

I'll remember that...next time I get pulled over by a cop for speeding I'll be sure to ask for his resignation. He works for the citizens of the city I live in so he works for me.

If the officer performed their duties as abysmally as Sebelius has performed hers I would hope you would seek their resignation.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

That has a very limited span of influence.

Indeed, the American people's influence in their own government is shrinking by the day.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

Indeed, the American people's influence in their own government is shrinking by the day.

As compared to what levels and when?
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

then why make all elections require public financing?

Are you missing a word in there or do you not know that a candidate can elect to not receive public financing? Obama ran his campaigns without public financing.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

Indeed, the American people's influence in their own government is shrinking by the day.

That after the people finally spoke up and clearly demanded the end of the teabagger's government shutdown?

Sounds more to me that the people are just starting to take back their government and the GOP are starting to take back their party.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

If the officer performed their duties as abysmally as Sebelius has performed hers I would hope you would seek their resignation.

The implementation of the internet site is one portion of her job. There's been much more muckups in the past 20 years with much worse consequences that didn't result in resignations. So lets say...the website has all the kinks worked out of it (a flawless launch in my opinion is pretty much impossible) in a couple of months. That's why you think she should lose her job? Because the initial launch of a computer site that taps in to multiple databases that were never built to be used in such a manner is resignation in disgrace worthy? Something tells me you would never want such a high bar applied to yourself.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

That after the people finally spoke up and clearly demanded the end of the teabagger's government shutdown?

Sounds more to me that the people are just starting to take back their government and the GOP are starting to take back their party.


Only 41% of Americans support the ACA.
, and that is post-shutdown.
 
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yes, but the gap between those who oppose and those in favor has narrowed if you use RCP which list 6 polls and gains an average. Prior the the shutdown the gap was 14-19 point in favor of oppose, after the shutdown the gap narrowed to 4-10 points among those six polls. Now with the shutdown over, the web site problems I am still looking for some new polls to find out if the web site problems if the polls returned to the pre-shutdown numbers or perhaps have remained constant.

Regardless of one views on the ACA or political ideology, the shutdown gave the ACA a shot in the arm.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

The implementation of the internet site is one portion of her job. There's been much more muckups in the past 20 years with much worse consequences that didn't result in resignations. So lets say...the website has all the kinks worked out of it (a flawless launch in my opinion is pretty much impossible) in a couple of months. That's why you think she should lose her job? Because the initial launch of a computer site that taps in to multiple databases that were never built to be used in such a manner is resignation in disgrace worthy? Something tells me you would never want such a high bar applied to yourself.

You only say this because you have no clue how the ACA is supposed to work. For you it is a poor dirty baby at one end and a wonderfully healthy Democrat voter at the other with a bunch of rainbows and unicorns filling the immense gap in your knowledge between those two points.

The Website is the crux of the ACA success. No phone bank can channel enough applicants to insurance coverage to make the books balance come 2014. To hit the warm body goals they need the website. Granted, this assumes that pending court cases don't render the website pointless and the ACA essentially dead without further legislation. Looks like Nancy Pelosi should have proof read the thing before passing it...

Not only that, but the success of ACA not only depends on sufficient masses buying into the plan, but it also is relying on sufficient numbers of healthy young Americans wanting to actually pay for insurance they won't use rather than for food and housing that they will.
 
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Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

yes, but the gap between those who oppose and those in favor has narrowed if you use RCP which list 6 polls and gains an average. Prior the the shutdown the gap was 14-19 point in favor of oppose, after the shutdown the gap narrowed to 4-10 points among those six polls. Now with the shutdown over, the web site problems I am still looking for some new polls to find out if the web site problems if the polls returned to the pre-shutdown numbers or perhaps have remained constant.

Regardless of one views on the ACA or political ideology, the shutdown gave the ACA a shot in the arm.

The "shot in the arm" was back before the sticker shock and gross mismanagement had really started to sink in. So yeah, good luck with that.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

You only say this because you have no clue how the ACA is supposed to work. For you it is a poor dirty baby at one end and a wonderfully healthy Democrat voter at the other with a bunch of rainbows and unicorns filling the immense gap in your knowledge between those two points.

Not sure what that's based on or even what you're talking about. I know exactly how the ACA is supposed to work.

The Website is the crux of the ACA success. No phone bank can channel enough applicants to insurance coverage to make the books balance come 2014. To hit the warm body goals they need the website.
Sure...but technology happens...I've never seen a major rollout of something with this scale roll out without a hitch. Also...I'm not sure what you mean about making the books balance. As long as the website prevents people from enrolling the open enrollment should be pushed back and the mandate requirement should be pushed back. Once the kinks are worked out then you can end open enrollment and start penalizing. There is 5 months until open enrollment ends.

Not only that, but the success not only depends on sufficient masses buying into the plan, but it also is relying on sufficient numbers of healthy young Americans wanting to actually pay for insurance they won't use rather than for food and housing that they will.
Of course...that's the purpose of the individual mandate. Wait...I think I know what you're talking about. When I got my haircut at the barbarshop yesterday the old man that runs it had his normal fox news on. Bill O'Reily had this grand narrative.....

Only sick people will sit through the time required to sign up so all these insurance companies will only be getting sick people.

You're crazy if that's not what you think would happen anyway. All the sick people now able to get insurance would flood in and get insurance. Healthy people would wait until the last minute to sign up. No insurance company is going down because for a month or two they have more sick people than normal.........
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

as is usual, you are hedging

the woman told the truth. she works for the person who appointed her to her position
not for those who oppose her being successful in her efforts

a typical non-story
faux news sourced
anyone else not surprised

Does Obama pay her salary and benefits? NO, therefor she works for the people who actually do pay for her services. And I must say we got nothing for her services, but then you have to look at who appointed her, that was Obama, one idiot appointing another idiot.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

Does Obama pay her salary and benefits? NO, therefor she works for the people who actually do pay for her services. And I must say we got nothing for her services, but then you have to look at who appointed her, that was Obama, one idiot appointing another idiot.

nope
Obama is her immediate report
he alone is responsible for determining whether she is doing an acceptable job or not
which is why she works for the fellow who appointed her

not saying Obama has a knack for selecting people with talent. he doesn't. but then we selected him
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

The Obamacare site sucks--no Words With Friends, no news feeds, no cat memes--she should be fired.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

The Obamacare site sucks--no Words With Friends, no news feeds, no cat memes--she should be fired.

I hate it when there's no kitties.
 
Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

nope
Obama is her immediate report
he alone is responsible for determining whether she is doing an acceptable job or not
which is why she works for the fellow who appointed her

not saying Obama has a knack for selecting people with talent. he doesn't. but then we selected him

Personally, I hope that Obama stays true to character, and refuses to acknowledge reality, and leave her in place spewing arrogance all the way....It is the best negative PR no money could buy.
 
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