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    re: Sebelius: ĎI Donít Work Forí People Who Want Me to Resign [W:105]

    Sebelius' attitude reflects the current administration's attitude about this country. They don't work for any of us. They work their own agenda fundamentally changing America squandering great sums of money by growing the government, exponentially increasing the entitlement nanny state, and borrowing obscene amounts of money to fund it.

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    re: Sebelius: ĎI Donít Work Forí People Who Want Me to Resign [W:105]

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Sebelius' attitude reflects the current administration's attitude about this country. They don't work for any of us. They work their own agenda fundamentally changing America squandering great sums of money by growing the government, exponentially increasing the entitlement nanny state, and borrowing obscene amounts of money to fund it.

    Great plan you dems created.
    She's quite right, though. Her point was that they are not her direct bosses, AND they are ones who wanted to repeal and defund the ACA, so they are not about trying to make it work or make it better. They have a different agenda. Just more Republican grand standing and chest beating. The Republicans working to make America better is all but gone. Just what have they done for the country lately? Anything? They just cost the taxpayers about $30 BILLION dollars for the shutdown unnecessarily.

    Unlike the Republican Part D of Medicare, the ACA has built in provisions that supposedly will fund it long term. This is why the Republicans want to obliterate the mandate. The mandate is a key provision that will help fund the ACA. Do away with the mandate, it will cost the taxpayers money, but more importantly, make the ACA less popular and easier to repeal or defund.

    Social Security is sound financially.

    Medicare has issues...Part D (passed by the Republicans) cost $1 TRILLION dollars and was unfunded. First, do away with that provision that prohibits the govt from negotiating with big pharm over drug prices. That's a start.

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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

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    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it gives me an opportunity to see what propaganda faux news is spewing without actually having to watch it
    along the way i am treated to intelligent political insights; however, infrequently will they have been posted by a faux news viewer
    vic, since you seem to have no depth of knowledge beyond what you have been told to believe, why do you inflict yourself on debate forums?
    Again with the insults. You have no one idea what I believe, you make assumptions based on a false premise. Much of that is on your own presumption that your worldview is superior, and any other view is automatically inferior. It's really akin to the bully in grade school who really feels weak and vulnerable so he acts boastful and tries to push people around to mask his own insecurities.
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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Yes, before. That is why I sure would like to see some up to date polls.
    That poll I showed was last week. How much more recent do you want?

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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That poll I showed was last week. How much more recent do you want?
    Using RCP they usually have all the recent polls. During the shutdown they had a list of 9 polls they used for their average and they were being updated daily. By that I mean at least one of the 8 polling would have new results for that day. RCP is showing one for the 22nd, one for the 21st, 3 polls for the 20th, a poll for the 19th and 3 others. Polling done by FOX, CBS, Gallup, CNN, ABC, Rassmussen, Pew, NBC etc.

    Does one poll really give you an accurate idea? Maybe, but if you are averaging nine polls, the average is probably more on the money as even a polling firm can have a bad day at the polls so to speak. Rassumssen is showing 46% for the ACA and 48% against, but CNN/ORC is showing 41% for and 56%, so which poll is right? Is it the 2% gap or the 15% gap? RCP's average shows 41.0% in favor, 48.7% against. That average is after the shutdown, but before all the web site problems really hit the news. Hence I would like to see new polling results to take everything into consideration.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Sebelius: ĎI Donít Work Forí People Who Want Me to Resign [W:105]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Does 33 House members represent 1/2 of the population? That's not even 1/3 of the Republicans in the House. Zimmer says it's more than half of the population. Whether these 33 people are correct or not, they're nowhere near 1/2 of the population, and not even 1/2 of their own party.
    You really don't think the majority in the house want her incompetent, arrogant ass canned? Think again. I'd bet there are some Demokrats in the mix too. Then again... probably not.
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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The clip is 25 minutes long, and there are several thoughts expressed by different individuals. But to keep it short, I was pointing to Will, and Carlson both hitting on the part that the website is the least of Obama's problems with this law...

    There are a lot of questions the people have, and they are all valid points in their own merit, suffice to say, that those being dropped from coverage now, is the tip of the iceberg, and the numbers leaking out from states in enrollment is dismal at best.
    And these are all positive failures. I say fail faster, deeper and more tragically so we can dump this turd into the sewer where it belongs.

    So... after thinking about this for a day, I'm 100% for keeping Dog Face Sebelius at the helm... There is no better poster child for ObamaKare Failure than her.

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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i did. it was a waste of time
    no one had anything of value to offer
    share with me what i missed
    You didn't watch it all... look at the OP's time stamp and yours. You're full of it.

    The vid was posted at 1:26...
    And at 1:31... about the middle of this you were busy responding in another thread.
    Here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...raid-raid.html

    Then at 1:45 you claim you watched it in the post above.

    Just another Socialist bull-****ter.

    Bubba... even if you clicked the second he posted it... you couldn't have watched it all... and then had the immense talent to busy yourself, your thoughts and post in another unrelated thread at the same time... Unless... unless... you're God!

    Are you?
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    Re: Sebelius says she doesn't 'work for' those calling for her resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Using RCP they usually have all the recent polls. During the shutdown they had a list of 9 polls they used for their average and they were being updated daily. By that I mean at least one of the 8 polling would have new results for that day. RCP is showing one for the 22nd, one for the 21st, 3 polls for the 20th, a poll for the 19th and 3 others. Polling done by FOX, CBS, Gallup, CNN, ABC, Rassmussen, Pew, NBC etc.

    Does one poll really give you an accurate idea? Maybe, but if you are averaging nine polls, the average is probably more on the money as even a polling firm can have a bad day at the polls so to speak. Rassumssen is showing 46% for the ACA and 48% against, but CNN/ORC is showing 41% for and 56%, so which poll is right? Is it the 2% gap or the 15% gap? RCP's average shows 41.0% in favor, 48.7% against. That average is after the shutdown, but before all the web site problems really hit the news. Hence I would like to see new polling results to take everything into consideration.
    Ah, I see. We do have a few million cancellation notices that went out since the last polls so it will be interesting to see if that moves the needle.

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