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    Re: Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Ye

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Do you have a job? Please tell me you don't. It would be the only way to explain why you don't know simple professional ethics and protocol. For example, at my job, it's pretty obvious that whomever answers the phone passes the call to the appropriate department. I don't handle accounting. If somebody calls my line and starts going on about numbers and fiscal quarters, I don't start discussing my company's information with them. I move them to the appropriate department within the company.

    Then again, I actually have a job - so I understand these basic concepts. Why don't you?
    The woman was hired to answer questions on the hotline Obamacare set up. In her interview with Hannity she stated past jobs she worked at were in the restaurant industry as a waitress. The government contractor hired her feeling she qualified for the job. Her training did not include dealing with calls with the media. She obviously didn't think she had done something wrong and was shocked when two people escorted her upstairs into a room filled with people and locked the doors behind them where she was told she was terminated and was escorted to her locker where someone emptied it for her and was escorted to the door.
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    Re: Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Ye

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    If I asked you how many people called you at your work and said hello, and you could remember how many people who greeted you with hello and you answered "all of them", would you be expressing an opinion or would you be recanting an accurate account of everyone who said hello to you?
    Lol, you're being disingenuous. This lady doesn't remember how many calls are made to her office all day. Which is why Hannity made the question purposely vague. Unless you can show she does - her statement is a simple opinion on how she thinks some people view the program.
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    Re: Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Ye

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The woman was hired to answer questions on the hotline Obamacare set up.
    Yes, about the workings of the program. Not give media interviews about the program. You never answered any of my questions. Do you have a job? It doesn't sound as if you do. If a media company calls your restaurant, do you let one of the waiters handle the call? Or should they pass it up to the proper department for it to be handled?
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    Re: Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Ye

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This is so far detached from the concept of professional responsibility - it's almost silly to try and respond to it. Sigh....

    Public servants don't operate under a different code of ethics. They don't even operate under a different code of professional ethics. They are held professionally accountable for their actions just like everyone else. And even if she was a whistleblower - I love how Libertarians seem to use words that have nothing to do with their meaning - she still isn't immune from getting fired.
    The first amendment protects political speech. It really doesn't cover you calling me names, it was never intended for that purpose. Workers in public service, in the course of their jobs, are all communicating with political speech because they are an extension of the government. The woman may have said something you don't like but the first amendment doesn't protect us when we agree. That's why they operate under a different code of conduct than private sector workers.

    Hannity is covering her wages for a year and his publicity has gotten her job offers in Pensacola I believe. He probably saved the government from a wrongful dismissal lawsuit.
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    Re: Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Ye

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, you're being disingenuous. This lady doesn't remember how many calls are made to her office all day. Which is why Hannity made the question purposely vague. Unless you can show she does - her statement is a simple opinion on how she thinks some people view the program.

    I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you knew for fact what this lady remembered. How does it feel to be omniscient?
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    Re: Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Ye

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why did they fire her?
    It's an interesting story, I'm just now trying to read a bit up on it. From what I'm understanding they claim that their employees weren't supposed to speak to the media. The issue is that she's claiming this was never stated in training or at any other point, AND there's a reasonable question of the difference between going to a media outlet or giving comment on your own time and simply answering a phone at the workplace and answering the job related questions being asked to you.

    Ultimately, as long as it's a state where firing someone for essentially any reason is okay then there's nothing really "wrong" here from a legal stand point because to my understanding this is a private entity that's simply government funded. She did something that embaressed the company; even if she was being truthful, even if she thought she was doing okay, that's a reasonable issue that could cause a boss to fire you. At the moment it seems REALLY knee-jerk and horribly dumb to do from a PR perspective (far worse than the initial call imho), but not necessarily "wrong" from a legal sense.

    However, I'm still kind of reading up on it as I just heard about it.

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    Re: Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Ye

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    interesting conversation we are seeing here.
    Agree entirely, it's always fun watching how people on both sides of the aisle will find ways to rationalize why a particular situation "is different" when a political wrench is thrown into the gears of a discussion that typically runs smoothly and predictably.

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    Re: Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Ye

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Year's Salary | RealClearPolitics



    Next stop, reeducation camps.

    Obama should put all his rules into an easily searchable and easy to understand format. Perhaps a little red book with all the answers would work....
    These folks are hired to answer questions. She did the American public a huge favor.

    Hannity showed immense class.


    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why did they fire her?
    Maggie,
    I heard the calls and what a nice lady. She simply answered the questions asked honestly. Is that disallowed? In Obama's Amerika it is.

    Then they brought her into the office, didn't reprimand her, just sent her packing. I wonder what effect that has on the remainder of the "staff"?

    If something like this had happened to say someone during the Bush/Cheney years... WHOA! The race card and every other card would be pulled out and played without end.
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    Re: Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Ye

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes, about the workings of the program. Not give media interviews about the program. You never answered any of my questions. Do you have a job? It doesn't sound as if you do. If a media company calls your restaurant, do you let one of the waiters handle the call? Or should they pass it up to the proper department for it to be handled?
    I am self employed/semi retired not that it is any of your business. I've worked a lot of years managing a business. So stop with your condescending comments.

    What part don't you get? This was a hotline set up for the operators to answer questions. The woman didn't think she did anything wrong because she did not have training that specified what to do when dealing with the media. That 1-800 number was for EVERYONE to call in if they had any questions.

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    Re: Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Ye

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Though she spoke the truth as she knew it, she would have been fired from any other business for the same actions.
    What do you mean? Most employers are thrilled when you badmouth them in the press!


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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