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    Report: NSA Spied on 124 Billion Phone Calls in One Month

    Report: NSA Spied on 124 Billion Phone Calls in One Month | Washington Free Beacon

    The National Security Agency recorded information about more than 124 billion phone calls during a 30-day period earlier this year, including around 3 billion calls from U.S. sources, according to a tally from top-secret documents released by multiple news outlets.

    Documents revealing details about the NSA’s Boundless Informant program show that information regarding billions of phone calls and computer communications was collected by the agency from across the world.

    Boundless Informant “allows users to select a country on a map and view the meta data volume and select details about the collections against that country,” according to the Guardian, which first reported on the top secret program earlier this year.
    Multiple leaked screenshots of the Boundless Informant program show that information on around 124.8 billion phone calls were collected in just 30-days this year, according to documents released by the Guardian and other news sites.

    The documents provide a window into the sheer volume of data being collected by the NSA as late as March of this year, according to the Guardian.

    Critics of the NSA’s multiple data collection programs, which include PRISM, argue that innocent Americans run the risk of having their personal communications monitored. Its defenders maintain that the program has been a key tool in the fight against terrorism.
    I understand the need to conduct intelligence operations, but I have mixed feelings about the large net approach to gathering up everything in front of you, then sifting through looking for problems. It raises a lot of questions.

    Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data | World news | theguardian.com

    Boundless Informant...........boundless? This alone should be a concern. Nothing should be boundless.
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    Re: Report: NSA Spied on 124 Billion Phone Calls in One Month

    I read somewhere that their new data center has had at least 10 "equipment destroying meltdowns" was the way I think it was phrased. Look on the bright side, the place might burn to the ground all on its own accord.

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    Too much data is about as useful as having no data. A gov employee is as likely to walk up on a bomb as to find info of someone building one.

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    Re: Report: NSA Spied on 124 Billion Phone Calls in One Month

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    I understand the need to conduct intelligence operations, but I have mixed feelings about the large net approach to gathering up everything in front of you, then sifting through looking for problems. It raises a lot of questions.

    Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data | World news | theguardian.com

    Boundless Informant...........boundless? This alone should be a concern. Nothing should be boundless.
    You are absolutely right. It raises many questions. The main two seem to be:
    -Do we have enough safeguards to protect us from misuse?
    -Have we explained enough to the world why it is necessary?

    From what I see, we have not. Though I do tend to feel that we should be able to control the use of the data to make it safe, I am not convinced we are there. And certainly the reaction from abroad indicates that they think we are dangerous. Obama has done nothing to alleviate that and he had better. These guys are really angry.

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    Re: Report: NSA Spied on 124 Billion Phone Calls in One Month

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    You are absolutely right. It raises many questions. The main two seem to be:
    -Do we have enough safeguards to protect us from misuse?
    -Have we explained enough to the world why it is necessary?

    From what I see, we have not. Though I do tend to feel that we should be able to control the use of the data to make it safe, I am not convinced we are there. And certainly the reaction from abroad indicates that they think we are dangerous. Obama has done nothing to alleviate that and he had better. These guys are really angry.
    It's storing the metadata from those calls. Is that actually "spying"?
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    Re: Report: NSA Spied on 124 Billion Phone Calls in One Month

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    You are absolutely right. It raises many questions. The main two seem to be:
    -Do we have enough safeguards to protect us from misuse?
    -Have we explained enough to the world why it is necessary?

    From what I see, we have not. Though I do tend to feel that we should be able to control the use of the data to make it safe, I am not convinced we are there. And certainly the reaction from abroad indicates that they think we are dangerous. Obama has done nothing to alleviate that and he had better. These guys are really angry.
    Frankly I don't generally care much who we spy on outside our border. My real concern there would be cost/benefit? No doubt the NSA has $billion budgets, so what are we getting for that? I'm not certain we're getting our money's worth. Large scale shotgun type of info gathering inside our borders bothers me. That includes attempts by the NSA to monitor within our borders from outside our borders. You know their using custom software that costs $millions to maintain, and acres of supercomputing that costs $millions to maintain; so what are we getting?
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    Re: Report: NSA Spied on 124 Billion Phone Calls in One Month

    Soooo.......

    Snowden is no longer public enemy number one, lol?
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    Re: Report: NSA Spied on 124 Billion Phone Calls in One Month

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    It's storing the metadata from those calls. Is that actually "spying"?
    I discussed that in another forum the other day and I do not really think it should be called "spying". That dilutes the meaning of the word "spying" and moves storing of data into a negative definition and prejudges an instrument that makes society better, if correctly handled. Sort of like a gun in a policeman's hands.

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    Re: Report: NSA Spied on 124 Billion Phone Calls in One Month

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    I understand the need to conduct intelligence operations, but I have mixed feelings about the large net approach to gathering up everything in front of you, then sifting through looking for problems. It raises a lot of questions.

    Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data | World news | theguardian.com

    Boundless Informant...........boundless? This alone should be a concern. Nothing should be boundless.
    Nothing will happen. Big Brother is here and we're too scared to stand up to him. 1984 finally arrives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nothing will happen. Big Brother is here and we're too scared to stand up to him. 1984 finally arrives.
    We don't have politicians that will.
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