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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, and yours is wrong. The bill took a freaking year to get through. Literally hundreds of amendments were accepted. (161 from Republicans, even!) It spent more time in floor debates than any bill in the last decade.
    Deuce, thanks for this. Mea Culpa. No wonder eye-witness testimony is suspect.

    Review a few of the Republican initiatives included in legislation passed by Congress:
    Includes personal responsibility incentives: Allows health insurance premium to vary based on participation in proven employer wellness programs

    • (Sources: H.R. 3468, “Promoting Health and Preventing Chronic Disease through Prevention and Wellness Programs for Employees, Communities, and Individuals Act” (Castle bill); H.R. 4038, “Common Sense Health Care Reform & Accountability Act” (Republican Substitute bill); H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act” (Kirk bill), "Coverage, Prevention and Reform Act")
    • Advances medical liability reform through grants to States: Provides grants to States to jump-start and evaluate promising medical liability reform ideas to put patient safety first, prevent medical errors, and reduce liability premiums.
    • (Sources: S. 1783, “Ten Steps to Transform Health Care in America Act” (Enzi bill); H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); H.R. 4529, “Roadmap for America’s Future Act” (Ryan bill); S. 1099, “Patients’ Choice Act” (Burr-Coburn, Ryan-Nunes bill))
    • Extends dependent coverage to age 26: Gives young adults new options.
    • (Sources: H.R. 4038, “Common Sense Health Care Reform & Accountability Act” (Republican Substitute bill); H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act” (Kirk bill))
    • Allows automatic enrollment by employers in health insurance: Allows employee to opt-out.
    • (Sources: House Republican Substitute; H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); “Coverage, Prevention, and Reform Act” )
    • Mechanisms to improve quality.
    • (Sources: H.R. 4529, “Roadmap for America’s Future Act;” S. 1099, “Patients’ Choice Act;” H.R. 3400, Republican Study Group bill; S. 1783, “Ten Steps to Transform Health Care in America Act” (Enzi bill))
    • Community Mental Health Centers. The President’s Proposal ensures that individuals have access to comprehensive mental health services in the community setting, but strengthens standards for facilities that seek reimbursement as community mental health centers by ensuring these facilities are providing appropriate care and not taking advantage of Medicare patients or the taxpayers.
    • (Source: H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act”)

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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    The election is a long way away and the memory of the American electorate quite short. The Cons are firmly entrenched, it would very hard for the Dems to unseat them. However, it would be very easy for the Cons to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once again (they are so good at that as evidenced by the Senate races in 2010 and 2012 and the White House in 2012)..... another shut down in January would probably lead to a shut-out in November.

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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Respectfully, Roughdraft, I just don't care to go back and dig up links, etc. to support my position differing from yours. Perhaps you are correct; but that is not the way I remember it happening at the time.
    Ok, no problem.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    The election is a long way away and the memory of the American electorate quite short. The Cons are firmly entrenched, it would very hard for the Dems to unseat them. However, it would be very easy for the Cons to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once again (they are so good at that as evidenced by the Senate races in 2010 and 2012 and the White House in 2012)..... another shut down in January would probably lead to a shut-out in November.
    You are right, the Republicans are very good for nominating bum candidates and as in 2012 defeating an incumbent, liked Luger in Indiana that was a sure winner and replace him with a loser. With a decent candidate instead of O'Donnell and Angle in 2010 the Republicans would have had two more seats to go with their 6 they picked up then. Meaning 49 seats going into 2012 instead of 47. In 2012, Snowes retirement was a blow and the GOP would have lost that seat no matter what. But if they let Luger alone in Indiana they would still have had that seat, then there was Aiken in Missouri. Any other candidate would have taken Missouri, Berg and Rehberg in Montana and North Dakota were very swift and the people of those two states didn't care for either. Aiken and Mourdock spouting off like they did probably cost Thompson in Wisconsin and Allen in Virginia and lead to their losses.

    With just half decent candidates the Republicans could be going into next year with control of the senate at 52 or 53 seats and a chance of picking up around 6 more. The way they choose their candidates, I don't think they care whether they win or lose. Now the Democrats know how to pick better candidates, perhaps it is all just that simple.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Ok, no problem.
    See my Post #41, Roughdraft. Mea Culpa to you as well.

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