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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    and what about thad cochran's recent primary challenger? any oppinion on him.

    i don't think the democrats have a chance at taking Mississippi senate seat, (if doubt if there is any democratic party in Mississippi), but i think thad Cochran is still a better choice then anyone to his right.
    No, no democrat will win in Mississippi unless Johns Stennis arises from the grave. I suppose Cochran is alright, he has stayed out of the lime light. He's not one for TV or the talkshows or to be interviewed by the news folks. For the most part I suppose one could say he just does his job. My two senators are pretty much the same way. Let the Schummers and Cruz's garner the limelight and put forth their rhetoric while others just go about doing their business.
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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yes, only geniuses vote Republican....yep, no misinformed voters there. Because there really is a huge difference between Romneycare and Obamacare!
    It's always interesting to get a response that has nothing to do with my post, or just about anything.
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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I hope it does. I'd like to see the mess they can make if they have total control. Last time, it was Obamacare shoved down people's throats. Caveat: I think Obamacare in some form was needed. They way it was enacted? The problems that will have to be speedily corrected? Therein lies the rub.
    When you have an entire party only dedicated to filibustering and making sure that nothing gets passed and is more interested in killing legislation than making it better, that's the only way to pass anything is by "ramming" it. And even then, I'd hardly call what happened "ramming" it. It was by far and away the most discussed bill ever passed in my lifetime. The finer points were debated for over a year. And it was passed with a super majority in the senate.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Whats crazy is that longer term projections of deep south and other deep red states have them turning purple. Hell some are saying Texas goes purple by 2020.
    I don't think the deep south has a chance of turning purple any time soon. The coastal states are certainly progressing that way, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, and even South Carolina, but Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Alabama, and Mississippi are only getting redder if anything. I know some are saying Texas could turn purple this decade, but in all likelihood if demographics continue to vote the same way it won't be until the 30s or 40s.
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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    When you have an entire party only dedicated to filibustering and making sure that nothing gets passed and is more interested in killing legislation than making it better, that's the only way to pass anything is by "ramming" it. And even then, I'd hardly call what happened "ramming" it. It was by far and away the most discussed bill ever passed in my lifetime. The finer points were debated for over a year. And it was passed with a super majority in the senate.
    You ignore that the majority party in the situation will not allow any but their own legislation to even reach the floor. And you are wrong, considering no one had read the bill at the time the final vote was taken, no one knew what was in it for certain, the previous year's worth of debate was simply tactical positioning.

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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    When you have an entire party only dedicated to filibustering and making sure that nothing gets passed and is more interested in killing legislation than making it better, that's the only way to pass anything is by "ramming" it. And even then, I'd hardly call what happened "ramming" it. It was by far and away the most discussed bill ever passed in my lifetime. The finer points were debated for over a year. And it was passed with a super majority in the senate.
    We have different memories of 2009-10.

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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You ignore that the majority party in the situation will not allow any but their own legislation to even reach the floor. And you are wrong, considering no one had read the bill at the time the final vote was taken, no one knew what was in it for certain, the previous year's worth of debate was simply tactical positioning.
    1. You mean kinda like how the house republicans won't allow democrats to vote on a bill during the government shutdown? Get out of here with that bull****. Republican amendments were added and alot more would have been added if they were ever interested at any time in actually improving the bill.

    2. Many bills are passed without most of congress reading them. All the information has to be settled upon in committees and such, and if there is a segment where they accidentally added in that Obama gets to eat your newborn they can always take it out later. A bill isn't 100% final as soon as it's passed. It's congresses job to see how it is implemented and make positive changes if need be. That's how a government works. If you have a huge problem that congress doesn't read the bills they vote on, that's fine, but don't just single out one bill. That is the overwhelming majority. You're just butthurt about this one because you don't agree with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    We have different memories of 2009-10.
    Care to point out any part of what I said that doesn't jive with your memory? I really am curious how you can view it any differently.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Care to point out any part of what I said that doesn't jive with your memory? I really am curious how you can view it any differently.
    Respectfully, Roughdraft, I just don't care to go back and dig up links, etc. to support my position differing from yours. Perhaps you are correct; but that is not the way I remember it happening at the time.

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    Re: Democrats Have A Shot At Taking Back The House As Republican Popularity Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    We have different memories of 2009-10.
    Yes, and yours is wrong. The bill took a freaking year to get through. Literally hundreds of amendments were accepted. (161 from Republicans, even!) It spent more time in floor debates than any bill in the last decade.
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