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    Re: Now the Guns are Getting too Big to Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post

    PROVE YOUR CLAIM BY:

    Pointing out the specific actions Obama took that affected the election.
    Explaining qualitative or quantitative effects of Obama's actions and how they directly led to Cruz's election.
    Then proving that Republicans were at the risk of losing the election before Obama took some sort of action.


    LOL!! You are still hung up on the irrelevant "Republican seat" issue. It doesn't matter that it was a safe Republican seat. What matters is that, thanks to Obama, you liberals have to deal with Cruz instead of another establishment, moderate Republican.


    Again, I'll bet dollars to rocks you don't have anything but one can always hope.
    So...since it's irrelevant, I'll dismiss your third demand...but the first two demands can easily be met.

    Conservatives will be forever indebted to President Obama for helping to elect the most fearless, articulate, intelligent, and outspoken advocate for true constitutional principles to office in Washington since President Ronald Reagan.

    How President Obama gave America Ted Cruz and the Tea Party | Washington Times Communities
    So...now you see why I am so amused by this whole thing. Liberals are so upset at Cruz they are pulling out their big guns of smears, lies, and ridicule...before he's really gotten started...and it's all thanks to Obama. LOL!!
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    Re: Now the Guns are Getting too Big to Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    Top Republican Slams Ted Cruz: 'Show A Little Self-Restraint'

    And so the fight is on in earnest. Is this going to be too hard of a choice for Republicans to make. And what happens when some of the other really big guns start trashing Cruz. Choose your sides now. See if you can bring down Jeb Bush in favour of supporting Cruz. LOL
    Are you thinking we need a Bush/Cruz ticket?

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    Re: Now the Guns are Getting too Big to Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    So...since it's irrelevant, I'll dismiss your third demand...but the first two demands can easily be met.

    So...now you see why I am so amused by this whole thing. Liberals are so upset at Cruz they are pulling out their big guns of smears, lies, and ridicule...before he's really gotten started...and it's all thanks to Obama. LOL!!
    Lmao, your proof is some op-ed? Here is their proof:

    If Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder had not sued Texas and pushed back its primary for two and a half months, the only senator brave enough to take on Obama’s fundamental transformation of this country, Ted Cruz, would never have been in the United States Senate.
    David Dewhurst, the GOP establishment’s pick for senator, was presumed to have won the nomination before the election even began.
    Only... this goes against polling in the state which NEVER had Dewhurst winning by 50%. Then again, I could be trying to pass off a single poll as evidence that Dewhurt was never going to win but... EVERY poll consistently showed that there was going to be a runoff election. Which puts the claim that "David Dewhurt" was presumed a win - as "false". Hahahaha, your claim falls flat on its face again with those pesky little facts and numbers you seem to not like discussing:

    Attachment 67155378

    So just 5 months before the election, regardless of whether Obama sued the state or not, Dewhurt COULDN'T have won the primary.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 10-21-13 at 11:39 AM.
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    Re: Now the Guns are Getting too Big to Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lmao, your proof is some op-ed? Here is their proof:





    Only... this goes against polling in the state which NEVER had Dewhurst winning by 50%. Then again, I could be trying to pass off a single poll as evidence that Dewhurt was never going to win but... EVERY poll consistently showed that there was going to be a runoff election. Which puts the claim that "David Dewhurt" was presumed a win - as "false". Hahahaha, your claim falls flat on its face again with those pesky little facts and numbers you seem to not like discussing:

    Attachment 67155378

    So just 5 months before the election, regardless of whether Obama sued the state or not, Dewhurt COULDN'T have won the primary.
    Are you kidding me?

    That graphic you presented shows polls that occurred AFTER the original primary date of March 6. The article stated clearly that Cruz would have lost then...but surged in the months after. Even then, he didn't win, but ultimately won in the runoff...which never would have occurred if Obama hadn't helped out.

    You need to either find polls that support you from BEFORE March 6...or admit that Obama is responsible for Cruz being able to make your life miserable.
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    Re: Now the Guns are Getting too Big to Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    As I said...your blather about the seat being a Republican seat is irrelevant. Sure...Cruz won a Republican seat, but without Obama's help, HE wouldn't have won it. The guy he was challenging would have won it.

    The ONLY reason Cruz is in the Senate to cause y'all so much heartburn is because of the actions of Obama. Plain and simple.
    there's some truth in what you say there. No teabaggers would have even been considered for political office if Obama the black man hadn't been elected president. Baggers are all about racist hate. When Obama's gone the movement will die back to be a fringe libertarian movement with smaller support than Ron Paul had.

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    Re: Now the Guns are Getting too Big to Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    there's some truth in what you say there. No teabaggers would have even been considered for political office if Obama the black man hadn't been elected president. Baggers are all about racist hate. When Obama's gone the movement will die back to be a fringe libertarian movement with smaller support than Ron Paul had.
    I dunno. When a woman takes the oval office next go around, I suspect their panties will still be all up in a bunch. The Tea Party is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrat party.

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    Re: Now the Guns are Getting too Big to Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    there's some truth in what you say there. No teabaggers would have even been considered for political office if Obama the black man hadn't been elected president. Baggers are all about racist hate. When Obama's gone the movement will die back to be a fringe libertarian movement with smaller support than Ron Paul had.
    Oh, great!!

    You are back with your Canadian, ultra-left nonsense.
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    Re: Now the Guns are Getting too Big to Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Oh, great!!

    You are back with your Canadian, ultra-left nonsense.
    Well there's no reason for you to be nasty and insulting. Commies are people too you know. I'll be watching your posts for a while as you continue to make your case that Obama is the reason why the teabagger party even exists!

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    Re: Now the Guns are Getting too Big to Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Are you kidding me?

    That graphic you presented shows polls that occurred AFTER the original primary date of March 6.

    The article stated clearly that Cruz would have lost then...but surged in the months after. Even then, he didn't win, but ultimately won in the runoff...which never would have occurred if Obama hadn't helped out.You need to either find polls that support you from BEFORE March 6...or admit that Obama is responsible for Cruz being able to make your life miserable.
    Ah, so you want some which are before March 6th 2012? Fine:

    United States Senate election in Texas, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Attachment 67155380

    There you go, just 2 months before Drewhurst was still not getting 50% of the vote which means there would have still been a runoff election regardless of Obama's actions. You know, a simple scroll through the 2012 Texas Senate Election would have saved you the embarrassment.
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    Re: Now the Guns are Getting too Big to Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I dunno. When a woman takes the oval office next go around, I suspect their panties will still be all up in a bunch. The Tea Party is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrat party.
    It appears that you're right. There's news out now that if things continue to decline for the GOP the Dems will take back the house. The best thing Cruz can do is try another one of his gov shutdown stunts or debt ceiling dog and pony shows. Damage is done to the GOP while they're happening and he might even succeed in pulling it off next time! That would really screw him and his bagger accomplices.

    Gee some people are stupid!

    And all because those suth-ners never did get lurned to live in peace wif der negras.

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