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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You left out the little part about having to pay an increasingly steep fine every year if they don't.
    It's cheaper then insurance, even after subsidies.

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    I don't see it as breaking news that the rates will increase. I do see it as breaking rules that it doesn't in 5 states!

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Sure you did. You vote for Republicans who staunchly defend higher student loan rates, cut taxes for the wealthy and make the middle class pay for lengthy wars, uncompromisingly defend the right of wealthy corporations to ship jobs and money overseas, obliterate workers' rights and decent wages. Everything they stand for involves destroying my generation for the benefit of yours.

    We believed our elders when they told us to study hard and go to college and we'll have gainful employment. Instead now we're told to shut up and flip burgers and be grateful not to be homeless. We are the first generation in modern history that will be poorer than our parents. Voting in one president doesn't make changes like that. The right wing policies that have been gutting the middle class since the 70s does. But now we're growing up. And we're cynical. And we have no illusions. You and yours stole our future from us, and we're going to take it back.



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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Sure you did. You vote for Republicans who staunchly defend higher student loan rates, cut taxes for the wealthy and make the middle class pay for lengthy wars, uncompromisingly defend the right of wealthy corporations to ship jobs and money overseas, obliterate workers' rights and decent wages. Everything they stand for involves destroying my generation for the benefit of yours.

    We believed our elders when they told us to study hard and go to college and we'll have gainful employment. Instead now we're told to shut up and flip burgers and be grateful not to be homeless. We are the first generation in modern history that will be poorer than our parents. Voting in one president doesn't make changes like that. The right wing policies that have been gutting the middle class since the 70s does. But now we're growing up. And we're cynical. And we have no illusions. You and yours stole our future from us, and we're going to take it back.
    Well good luck with that. But most recently your generation re elected the guy who is tanking the country. You can't keep voting for free stuff (or at least what you are gullible enough to think will be free) and not get caught with the tab at some point. As for what you believed about education and a job, well that is between you, your parents, and your high school guidance counselor. I graduated in 1987 and I was fed the same line of bull****. Thing is I didn't believe it then any more than you should now. I'd feel for you, but I can't reach that far.

    BTW, why is it that you keep harping on Republicans voting to destroy the middle class? Do you honestly think all Republicans are rich people flying around in corporate jets? And you do realize that this new health care law, on top of the student loans you guys are getting screwed with, will hold your generation down like none before? I understand your cynism, but if you think you are going to fix it with Obama's policies you are sorely mistaken.

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    If all you need is basic cable....and then suddenly you're told you can't get basic cable anymore, but it's okay you're going to get 300 new channels, 150 music channels, and 3 months free of HBO...then as as consumer you're going to be comparing that $30 bucks you use to pay for cable to the $120 you now have to pay for cable. Was your "basic cable" plan comparable, in terms of what it provides, to the new "premium" package that they're forcing you to use that has so many more options. No. But that's because they've taken away your ability to choose that "basic" option and the "premium" option is your only choice, and thus you're comparing the most basic thing you could previously get to the most basic thing you can currently get. THAT is Apples to Apples. The fact it provides you a bunch of extra stuff you don't want and likely won't need is not an offset.
    That is why they offer a "catastrophic" plan for under 30s on most of the state exchanges. It is stripped down and has a $6,350 deductible. None of these "statistics" are using those plans even though they would be the most comparable.
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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    It's cheaper then insurance, even after subsidies.
    True. But then you don't have insurance.
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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    The disinformation campaign must be costing the insurance companies a fortune, that will be why they are loading premiums.
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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That is why they offer a "catastrophic" plan for under 30s on most of the state exchanges. It is stripped down and has a $6,350 deductible. None of these "statistics" are using those plans even though they would be the most comparable.
    There is not much difference between the catastrophic and Bronze planes. Most will not be able to afford the deductible or co-insurance payments...
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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    It's cheaper then insurance, even after subsidies.
    For now it is. 1% is small enough, next year it goes to 2%, then 2.5%, and from there it can be adjusted as Nanny sees fit. Thing is people may opt to pay the penalty this year, but as time goes on insurance is going to get more and more expensive as the true costs become apparent. Eventually people will not be able to afford either the premiums or the fines, and then what?

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