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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Insurance is a pool. If we are to allow old sick people coverage, then young healthy ones have to pay more. Is it fair? No. But, what in life is?

    Personally, I'd be self employed if not for the group healthcare. Over the past ten years or so, if I were to have covered myself and family, I'd have paid 5X as much, out of pocket, and have crappier coverage. Now, under the new scheme, I might be breaking even. Group covereages will weaken and cost more while rates for the 50-plus on individual plans may strengthen. This may open up an opportunity for me to go back into my own business.
    Me too, I have a good job outside of my personal business (rental property). Now that Obama has effectively destroyed the great insurance I had I may fall back and focus on more rental property as this administration has made it very hard on home ownership. More and more people are seeking rental these days to avoid property taxes and various municipal taxes.

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    That is some truly hateful selfish intent right there. Blaming todays youth, many of whom were to young to actually vote at the time, for creating the problems of your generation is shocking. It might even be evil. This is like blaming a toddler for being abandoned and if it dies from exposure it's the child's fault.

    The youth didn't implement Medicare or Social Security, the two biggest pyramid schemes the world has known. The youth of today didn't create The Great Recession. The youth of today didn't create the job outsourcing bonanza the U.S. is facing. And the youth of today aren't the ones preventing tax cuts for bringing jobs back to America from being implemented.

    You are a truly evil individual if your beliefs are sincere.
    Well actually they ARE the ones preventing tax cuts for bringing jobs back to America. They are supporting a guy who has no interest in those policies. They are also the ones who support this health insurance scam that is sure to bankrupt us, just as designed. I wasn't around for the beginning of SS or Medicare. I was around to see the liberal media crash the fix for SS though. You remember that? Turns out Clinton assembled a commission to study various ways to fix it, and they did. Thing is by the time the study as complete the results were delivered to GWB. Remember that? Yup, the liberals called it "Bush's plan" even though he had nothing to do with it and did a terrible job selling it. You think your young liberals are on the right side with these programs? Hardly. The worst part is they expended a good amount of energy and resources destroying a better solution than this health insurance scam will end up being. Ignorance could perhaps be forgiven, but WILLFUL ignorance? I have no sympathy for that.

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Insurance is a pool. If we are to allow old sick people coverage, then young healthy ones have to pay more. Is it fair? No. But, what in life is?

    Personally, I'd be self employed if not for the group healthcare. Over the past ten years or so, if I were to have covered myself and family, I'd have paid 5X as much, out of pocket, and have crappier coverage. Now, under the new scheme, I might be breaking even. Group covereages will weaken and cost more while rates for the 50-plus on individual plans may strengthen. This may open up an opportunity for me to go back into my own business.
    People won't be signing up on the exchanges in groups. They will be making individual decisions on whether they should or shouldn't sign up. If the price is too high, the young and health won't sign up, and the premiums on the exchanges will skyrocket and the plan will collapse as an abysmal failure. Its that simple. Why else would Obama's team be spending hundreds of millions of dollars to advertise to the YOUNG AND HEALTHY. The ENTIRE LAW revolves around the belief that the young and healthy will sign up for overpriced coverage.

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    That is some truly hateful selfish intent right there. Blaming todays youth, many of whom were to young to actually vote at the time, for creating the problems of your generation is shocking. It might even be evil. This is like blaming a toddler for being abandoned and if it dies from exposure it's the child's fault.

    The youth didn't implement Medicare or Social Security, the two biggest pyramid schemes the world has known. The youth of today didn't create The Great Recession. The youth of today didn't create the job outsourcing bonanza the U.S. is facing. And the youth of today aren't the ones preventing tax cuts for bringing jobs back to America from being implemented.

    You are a truly evil individual if your beliefs are sincere.
    lots of them voted for Obama and his idiotic ObamaTaxCare



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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Insurance is a pool. If we are to allow old sick people coverage, then young healthy ones have to pay more. Is it fair? No. But, what in life is?

    Personally, I'd be self employed if not for the group healthcare. Over the past ten years or so, if I were to have covered myself and family, I'd have paid 5X as much, out of pocket, and have crappier coverage. Now, under the new scheme, I might be breaking even. Group covereages will weaken and cost more while rates for the 50-plus on individual plans may strengthen. This may open up an opportunity for me to go back into my own business.
    What happened to all that bull**** about fairness?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Me too, I have a good job outside of my personal business (rental property). Now that Obama has effectively destroyed the great insurance I had I may fall back and focus on more rental property as this administration has made it very hard on home ownership. More and more people are seeking rental these days to avoid property taxes and various municipal taxes.
    Yeah, we have a couple houses. One is a duplex we rent out. Thinking of dividing this place up (2700 sq ft) and renting it out too. We'll probably buy a smaller house for ourselves.

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What happened to all that bull**** about fairness?
    WHat happened to it? It was never there.

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    People won't be signing up on the exchanges in groups. They will be making individual decisions on whether they should or shouldn't sign up. If the price is too high, the young and health won't sign up, and the premiums on the exchanges will skyrocket and the plan will collapse as an abysmal failure. Its that simple. Why else would Obama's team be spending hundreds of millions of dollars to advertise to the YOUNG AND HEALTHY. The ENTIRE LAW revolves around the belief that the young and healthy will sign up for overpriced coverage.
    That might be true.

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    People won't be signing up on the exchanges in groups. They will be making individual decisions on whether they should or shouldn't sign up. If the price is too high, the young and health won't sign up, and the premiums on the exchanges will skyrocket and the plan will collapse as an abysmal failure. Its that simple. Why else would Obama's team be spending hundreds of millions of dollars to advertise to the YOUNG AND HEALTHY. The ENTIRE LAW revolves around the belief that the young and healthy will sign up for overpriced coverage.
    You left out the little part about having to pay an increasingly steep fine every year if they don't.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: Premiums for young healthy people will jump in 45 states under Obamacare

    I cannot sign up,,,tried,,,several times. I am waiting on the IRS to show up with AR's and arrest me for not signing up because I could not? I will yell,,Sibelius..they will say,,Your denied, you anarchist!

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