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    re: 1.8M-year-old skull gives glimpse of our evolution[w67,72]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    So he can get dinged for not accepting your little belief system? Psh. This seems to be a dodge to avoid criticism and go elsewhere to be "protected."
    Wait a minute. So I can get dinged for not accepting his little belief system? I don't need protection and I'm criticized virtually every time I post here. What makes you think I avoid it? Is it that you would like to have an argument concerning religion? Go for it. You already know where the forum is. I think you guys just got your panties in a twist a little too fast, and now you're complaining that you didn't get a cookie for your trouble. Live with it.

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    re: 1.8M-year-old skull gives glimpse of our evolution[w67,72]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Wait a minute. So I can get dinged for not accepting his little belief system? I don't need protection and I'm criticized virtually every time I post here. What makes you think I avoid it? Is it that you would like to have an argument concerning religion? Go for it. You already know where the forum is. I think you guys just got your panties in a twist a little too fast, and now you're complaining that you didn't get a cookie for your trouble. Live with it.
    Fact remains, we didn't bring up that ****, mak did. And no, I won't go debate you in the religious forum because you'll just cry to a mod to get me infracted for criticizing your religion. You inserted yourself into a conversation, then decided you didn't like the topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Wait a minute. So I can get dinged for not accepting his little belief system? I don't need protection and I'm criticized virtually every time I post here. What makes you think I avoid it? Is it that you would like to have an argument concerning religion? Go for it. You already know where the forum is. I think you guys just got your panties in a twist a little too fast, and now you're complaining that you didn't get a cookie for your trouble. Live with it.
    Oh really? There's a forum where religious can be dinged for critiquing the irreligious? Strange I must've missed that one. Why do you think you're criticized? Do I want an argument about religion? Meh. I argue it enough as it is, so what's one more? If you don't need protection, why'd you tell him to go to the religious sub-forum where he'll surely be dinged?
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    re: 1.8M-year-old skull gives glimpse of our evolution[w67,72]

    The 1.8 million year old skull really has little to do with religion, unless you insist on young Earth creationism, which is just the way some people interpret ancient writings.

    The Bible does not give the age of the Earth. If it did, it would just say it is 40 years old, 40 meaning "many", and that would be accurate. The Earth is many years old.
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    re: 1.8M-year-old skull gives glimpse of our evolution[w67,72]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Fact remains, we didn't bring up that ****, mak did. And no, I won't go debate you in the religious forum because you'll just cry to a mod to get me infracted for criticizing your religion. You inserted yourself into a conversation, then decided you didn't like the topic.

    Stop being a child.
    So now it's not me, but Mak. Damn that Mac. I made comments that shouldn't have offended anyone, and they were offered in the most light hearted way. You're the one crying foul because you're trolling, and I pointed it out. Many of us do, so it's not like I'm not guilty. Just don't get pissed off when it's pointed out. And the topic was, since I have to remind you again, a 1.8 million year old skull. That doesn't seem to be a topic of your liking. And who's this "we". What? Are you guys traveling in packs, or what?

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    re: 1.8M-year-old skull gives glimpse of our evolution[w67,72]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Well you can't believe in the bible and believe that this skull is actually 1.8 million years old. The bible's timeline back to Adam and Eve was very well detailed, and it's put at about 4,000 BC. So yes, you have to choose. Do you believe in the bible's creation story, or do you believe in evolution? Things don't evolve much in 6,000 years.
    The bible doesn't say the Earth was created 6000 years ago. A few centuries back, some human decided it said that. It is entirely possible to believe that human was wrong.

    I think it's also possible to believe that the creation story is metaphorical rather than literal. 7 days problem.
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    re: 1.8M-year-old skull gives glimpse of our evolution[w67,72]

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    re: 1.8M-year-old skull gives glimpse of our evolution[w67,72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The bible doesn't say the Earth was created 6000 years ago. A few centuries back, some human decided it said that. It is entirely possible to believe that human was wrong.

    I think it's also possible to believe that the creation story is metaphorical rather than literal. 7 days problem.
    It doesn't say it was created 6,000 years ago, but it implies it from the series of events. You can follow the lineages down from Adam and Eve to Moses, Abraham, and other major biblical characters, which we can historically place.

    That means for you to accept this skull isn't a hoax, you have to accept that somehow at least 1.8 million lost years occurred between Adam and Eve and Jesus. Why would the bible magically omit 1.8 million years? How could any society, much less the jews, survive 1.8 million years?

    Then you'd have to admit that Adam and Eve looked something like Australopithecus.



    Which then would require you to believe that god was somehow unpleased with his first models of humans, destroyed them and created hundreds of new versions until he finally got it 'right' about 6,000+ years ago.

    If you can fit all these things into a nice, logical model, then I applaud your mental gymnastics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The 1.8 million year old skull really has little to do with religion, unless you insist on young Earth creationism, which is just the way some people interpret ancient writings.

    The Bible does not give the age of the Earth. If it did, it would just say it is 40 years old, 40 meaning "many", and that would be accurate. The Earth is many years old.
    As you can see above, the history of the homo genus spans millions of years, which no matter how you count it, doesn't match with the biblical lineages traced from Adam and Eve. Either they weren't actually the first humanoids god created, or there's a massive 1.8 million+ year gap in the bible and the lineages are just wrong.
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    re: 1.8M-year-old skull gives glimpse of our evolution[w67,72]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It doesn't say it was created 6,000 years ago, but it implies it from the series of events. You can follow the lineages down from Adam and Eve to Moses, Abraham, and other major biblical characters, which we can historically place.

    That means for you to accept this skull isn't a hoax, you have to accept that somehow at least 1.8 million lost years occurred between Adam and Eve and Jesus. Why would the bible magically omit 1.8 million years? How could any society, much less the jews, survive 1.8 million years?

    Then you'd have to admit that Adam and Eve looked something like Australopithecus.



    Which then would require you to believe that god was somehow unpleased with his first models of humans, destroyed them and created hundreds of new versions until he finally got it 'right' about 6,000+ years ago.

    If you can fit all these things into a nice, logical model, then I applaud your mental gymnastics.



    As you can see above, the history of the homo genus spans millions of years, which no matter how you count it, doesn't match with the biblical lineages traced from Adam and Eve. Either they weren't actually the first humanoids god created, or there's a massive 1.8 million+ year gap in the bible and the lineages are just wrong.
    Funny, how people will worry about the Wording in the Bible and what chronology it implies. The Document is not written like a history book and does not really seem useful as such.

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    re: 1.8M-year-old skull gives glimpse of our evolution[w67,72]

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    It looks like an australopithecus skull without the mandible. Not sure why this is big news, there is already a substantial amount of evidence that points to early hominids originating in what would now be Africa, about 50 million years ago. What would interest me is evidence on how the early hominids reached North and South America. Advanced primates came into play about 70 million years ago, about 20-30 million years prior to that, the Americas had already significantly split westward.
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