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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    hehe, you act as if Boeing is any different... that's funny.

    I'll relate a small story about the Aerospace industry, just to highlight
    my pops was a precision driller on the B-1 program.... he drilled the little holes that rivets eventually go in.
    I'm home on leave and we're talking shop, and he tells me about his hard days.... he tells me that on Monday he drilled 4 holes in a panel.. precision holes, no doubt.
    those holes took him about 1.5 hours... so by 9:am he's done with this order.
    friday morning, an inspector finally shows up to check his work and give the go ahead to proceed with the next 8 holes.
    between monday morning and friday morning, my pops shot pool in the employee break room ( I saw it, it's badass... ) and watched movies and such.
    he was given hte go-ahead ot work saturday and sunday on his next order... and order he completed by Friday afternoon.

    now here's hte rub... pops was making 22 bucks an hour.. in the early 80's...saturday was double time, sunday was triple time.
    that week, he made $880 in straight time and $880 in overtime for saturday and sunday.
    $1760 bucks for drilling 12 holes through thin aluminum over the course of 7 days.. in today's money, that's $6,600 bucks.

    my pops was lazy and he liked the idea of being handed something for nothing, so the job fit him well.

    but yeah, Aerospace is big scam... most assuredly,some of the money they take is justified, i mean ,we are talking about high performance airframes and such.. but damn... I'd consider what they do to be fraud at worst, waste at best.

    A lot of that it is just the BS of politics. Programs are sold at unreasonable numbers with unreasonable deadlines to make them palaltable to politicians.

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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    A major jump in the ticket price there mtm.

    As the OP stated, A damn project that was slated to get $775,000,000 of Federal monies somehow got bumped to $2,918,000,000...

    The timing of the "funding" doesnt raise any suspicion to you?
    The price jump doesnt raise suspicion to you?
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Many on the left accuse conservatives of not supporting infrastructure spending. So libs pay attention... This is the kind of stuff conservatives object to. It's not the dam that's the problem, hell it may actually need repair, It's the way the funding is appropriated. Special deals and over funding, sending a glut of cash into a powerful senator's state; Who btw, just had an opponent from the right declare his intention to run against McConnell. It's this kind of self dealing, that creates opposition to infrastructure projects.
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    Is the dam a federal property? If not it is the way it was funded and the fact that it was funded with federal funds.

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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Is the dam a federal property? If not it is the way it was funded and the fact that it was funded with federal funds.
    I would rather fund a dam than any part of Obamacare

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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I would rather fund a dam than any part of Obamacare
    Hopefully those aren't the only two choices.

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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Hopefully those aren't the only two choices.
    probably not

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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    A major jump in the ticket price there mtm.

    As the OP stated, A damn project that was slated to get $775,000,000 of Federal monies somehow got bumped to $2,918,000,000...

    The timing of the "funding" doesnt raise any suspicion to you?
    The price jump doesnt raise suspicion to you?
    this project was started over a decade ago. your op didn't give the full picture of the situation.
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Though I clipped it, Your post #13 was outstanding..
    Though I live in NorthCentral Illinois, we all understand this is about the 'Ohio River' and Interstate Commerce, not Kentucky .
    yep, some wanted to make it about mcconnell when it wasn't.
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And what about the f-35?
    What about it?
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    You don't. I understand fully. But what you don't seem to understand if the larger picture, the idea of sacrificing a little to gain a lot.

    What you consider pork those directly affected by it consider it necessary.

    Agreed. But there's a time for idealism and a time for realism. This was a time for realism.

    If we have to choose between allocating $2b which was going to be spent anyways versus defaulting on our debt and potentially causing a ripple effect of economic disaster across the world, then the $2b is the better option.

    I can't believe I have to explain to you why a potentially devastating worldwide economic collapse is a bad thing.

    That's true of all politicians in every party.

    Additional nothing. Don't be naive, that money was going to be spent regardless of where it went.

    That money helped prevent a possible epic economic disaster. That's beneficial.
    Thats exactly what you are supposed to believe. You are a faithful follower and defender of the status quo....the powers that be are proud of you.
    Know the truth and the truth will make you mad, because the truth has no agenda.

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