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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

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    So you think the military should get a blank check? Yes, there are some things that they military has spent on that IS wasteful spending.
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    Congress has no pork barreling

    Don't they know that pork grease keeps the wheels of government rolling. Maybe that's why the Speaker has a hard time getting the votes he needs. No grease to spread around
    There should not be "grease" to spread around. That "grease" is part of the reason we are $17 Trillion in debt, that "grease" is part of the reason we cant get rid of lousy politicians who have entrenched themselves with our money. That "grease" is part of the reason we are in the shape we are in as a country.
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Mitch McConnell Accused of Sneaking in $2 Billion ‘Kentucky Kickback’ in Budget, Debt Limit Deal

    Well, the Republicans caved in and ran away with their tails between their legs over the budget negotiations. The stupid idiots allowed the Continuing Resolution debate to be combined with the Debt ceiling debate...morons.

    But thats not the reason I posted this. It looks like McConnell's home state is getting a special present out of all this.

    A damn project that was slated to get $775,000,000 of Federal monies somehow got bumped to $2,918,000,000.

    No wonder McConnell was so gung ho to pass the deal...screw our budget, Kentucky is getting $3 Billion for a project originally slated to get $775 Million. I wonder if the Contracting company that is building the damn is any kin, friend or large campaign donor of McConnell's.

    And we wonder why the country is in the economic shape it is in.
    Here's a perfect example of media not giving you the FULL story and because of that, ignorant people have jumped to false conclusions. It's appears now to be fully funded.

    Construction stages

    The project will be constructed using several construction
    contracts with completion scheduled for the year 2016.

    The current plan calls for the following contracts:

    (1) Access Road/Resident Engineer's Office — The
    construction of the road and the office was the first construction
    contract for the project. The contract was awarded November
    1992, and construction completed June 1994
    .
    (2) Lock Cofferdam — This cofferdam was used to
    construct the locks and make connection to the Illinois shore.
    The contract was awarded in May 1993, and construction
    was completed in December 1995, at a cost of approximately
    $58 million.

    (3) Prototype at Smithland Locks and Dam — The
    prototype facility was constructed to verify the design of
    the dam and aid in the selection of materials. Construction
    began in 1994, and work was completed in December 1995.
    The Corps is conducting tests at this facility.

    (4) Locks — The construction contract for the twin
    1,200-foot lock chambers was awarded in December 1995
    and completed in March 2002 for $271,500,000.

    (5) Bulkheads --- The construction contract to fabricate
    the operation and maintenance bulkhead was awarded
    in September 2001 for $24.2 million. The installation of the
    operating bulkheads was completed in 2005.

    (6) Lock Approach Walls — The Corps awarded the
    contract for the approach walls in September 1999 for $98.9
    million. The approach wall work was completed in March
    2004.

    (7) Boat Ramp Relocation — The Village of Olmsted
    boat ramp has been relocated downstream of its former location.
    The construction contract for the new ramp was awarded
    in June 2001 and was completed in October 2002.

    (8) Buildings and Grounds — Operational buildings will
    be constructed on the service mound adjacent to the locks.

    (9) Dam — The dam was designed by Jacobs/Gerwick
    JV. The construction contract for the tainter gates and navigable
    pass dam was awarded in January 2004 to Washington
    Group/Alberici. The construction of the dam is scheduled for
    completion in 2020.

    (10) Demolition of Locks and Dams 52 and 53 — When
    all the features of the Olmsted Locks and Dam are constructed,
    Locks and Dams 52 and 53 will be removed.

    http://www.lrl.usace.army.mil/Portal...prehensive.pdf
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    There should not be "grease" to spread around. That "grease" is part of the reason we are $17 Trillion in debt, that "grease" is part of the reason we cant get rid of lousy politicians who have entrenched themselves with our money. That "grease" is part of the reason we are in the shape we are in as a country.
    Hmm - I forget irony doesn't do well in text form. I was being facetious.
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Many on the left accuse conservatives of not supporting infrastructure spending. So libs pay attention... This is the kind of stuff conservatives object to. It's not the dam that's the problem, hell it may actually need repair, It's the way the funding is appropriated. Special deals and over funding, sending a glut of cash into a powerful senator's state; Who btw, just had an opponent from the right declare his intention to run against McConnell. It's this kind of self dealing, that creates opposition to infrastructure projects.
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    Here's a perfect example of media not giving you the FULL story and because of that, ignorant people have jumped to false conclusions. It's appears now to be fully funded.
    A major jump in the ticket price there mtm.

    As the OP stated, A damn project that was slated to get $775,000,000 of Federal monies somehow got bumped to $2,918,000,000...

    The timing of the "funding" doesnt raise any suspicion to you?
    The price jump doesnt raise suspicion to you?
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    Hmm - I forget irony doesn't do well in text form. I was being facetious.
    I thought that, but I still had to elaborate on that
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Many on the left accuse conservatives of not supporting infrastructure spending. So libs pay attention... This is the kind of stuff conservatives object to. It's not the dam that's the problem, hell it may actually need repair, It's the way the funding is appropriated. Special deals and over funding, sending a glut of cash into a powerful senator's state; Who btw, just had an opponent from the right declare his intention to run against McConnell. It's this kind of self dealing, that creates opposition to infrastructure projects.
    The Insiders: Mitch McConnell faces personal risk in saving the GOP
    That's how politics is done. Pork Barrel spending is typically how folks that aren't old or dirt poor get their piece of the pie. Those construction workers are probably happy, those business owners that benefit are happy, the citizens of Kentucky should be happy that benefit from that damn. Granted....I believe there needs to be some sort controls...but this idea that all pork barrel spending is bad or that using it to get votes is bad is just ridiculous. If pork Barrel spending doesn't occur Congress just panders to ideologues.
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    What jd1 doesn't realize is that the Ohio River is between IL and KY for this dam..
    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    That's how politics is done. Pork Barrel spending is typically how folks that aren't old or dirt poor get their piece of the pie. Those construction workers are probably happy, those business owners that benefit are happy, the citizens of Kentucky should be happy that benefit from that damn.
    There were 6 other add-ons, such as the payment to Sen. Lautenberg's widow, none egregious
    I believe there needs to be some sort controls...but this idea that all pork barrel spending is bad or that using it to get votes is bad is just ridiculous.
    Amen to this live-on-ramen..
    If pork Barrel spending doesn't occur Congress just panders to ideologues.
    I would add that the USA would cease to exist, like my IKE Interstates .
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Funding our army isn't wasteful spending.
    Virtually everything we purchase for the operation of said army is. It's not the salaries and pensions and combat pay.

    It's the suppliers. It's the bullets, the tanks, airplanes, hell, the ****ing pens. We grossly overpay, because our contracting system is ridiculous. And it was easy to determine that is what I was talking about.
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