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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    McConnell has to go.
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    McConnell losing would be like Lugar losing, and giving Dems another seat,
    especially with a Dem governor who is making ACA work .
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Sure. That's why our offices got all brand new furniture today when the stuff we had was just fine. All because we "had to spend it or lose it" by the end of the fiscal year. Our military is black hole bro. I know you've heard the saying "had to spend it or lose it" before.
    C'mon, troop! Surely YOU understand that I never said there wasn't waste going on inside the DOD, but the Libbos' notion the funding the military is wasteful spending is ****ing stupid.
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Its being passed now with the Liberal Republicans aiding them along.

    I wouldnt say I am Right of McConnell, it really would depend on the issue. Fiscal issues - yes, I am way to the right of him. I am more along the Ron Paul / Rand Paul way of thinking on fiscal issues. On social issues I am Left of McConnell. I support gay marriage, abortion is NOT a governmental issue, I am for the legalization of drugs.
    You're real close to me, I believe in fiscal responsibility and also believe government shout stay out of such things as abortion and gay marriage. I believe those are individual/personal issues. The only big issue is drug policy, I am in no way or form in favor of legalizing it.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Thats exactly what you are supposed to believe. You are a faithful follower and defender of the status quo....the powers that be are proud of you.
    No, I'm just grounded in reality. You should try it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    regardless of the size of the droplet, it was droplets of varying size that make up the ocean of debt.
    Yes, and instead of worrying about taking money from a widow which represents .004% of the ocean, how about you spend more time worrying about the larger drops?

    But be a good follower and keep defending the status quo.
    It has nothing to do with following or status quo, it has to do with reality. Your assertion we should cause economic ruin across the world because of $2b which would be spent anyways is not only absurd, it's foolhardy. I have no idea why you don't understand why $2b to save TRILLIONS of dollars is a good investment.

    It's clear to me you prefer extreme measures, instead of carefully considered ones which result in a gradual improvement over time. It's also clear to me I would never want you to manage anything of mine, and certainly not my money.

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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    You're real close to me, I believe in fiscal responsibility and also believe government shout stay out of such things as abortion and gay marriage. I believe those are individual/personal issues. The only big issue is drug policy, I am in no way or form in favor of legalizing it.
    In a free society, we must take the good freedoms with the bad freedoms. We can not pick and choose which freedoms we allow. Either you are free to choose or you are not.

    Should drugs be legal - yes
    Are you a stupid moron if you do them - yes
    Know the truth and the truth will make you mad, because the truth has no agenda.

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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    No, I'm just grounded in reality. You should try it.

    Yes, and instead of worrying about taking money from a widow which represents .004% of the ocean, how about you spend more time worrying about the larger drops?

    It has nothing to do with following or status quo, it has to do with reality. Your assertion we should cause economic ruin across the world because of $2b which would be spent anyways is not only absurd, it's foolhardy. I have no idea why you don't understand why $2b to save TRILLIONS of dollars is a good investment.

    It's clear to me you prefer extreme measures, instead of carefully considered ones which result in a gradual improvement over time. It's also clear to me I would never want you to manage anything of mine, and certainly not my money.
    Reality is that our politicians are money grubbing, power hungry people who do not care about doing what they are elected to do, they are more concerned about not upsetting their gravy train.

    No one ever said that $2 billion would cause economic ruin, what is being said is those little $2 billion here and there add up to an ocean of debt.

    Carefully considered spending cuts are a thing to behold, a goal that should be striven for....tossing out billions here and there to buy votes is not economically smart nor is it a carefully considered spending cut.

    You support the status quo in Washington, fine, thats all you. But dont bitch when they waste money. Just like you are supporting.

    As far as managing money...Living on less than you earn and being debt free is a wonderful thing. Apparently you havent figured that out yet. Hopefully someday you will.
    Know the truth and the truth will make you mad, because the truth has no agenda.

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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    In a free society, we must take the good freedoms with the bad freedoms. We can not pick and choose which freedoms we allow. Either you are free to choose or you are not.

    Should drugs be legal - yes
    Are you a stupid moron if you do them - yes
    I understand what you're saying, but there are certain drugs I would fight against becoming legal. But outside of that, I am assuming we are pretty much on the same page.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I wouldn't be surpirsed if they were kin.


    Of course it doesn't hurt having the Prince of Pork, Hal Rodgers as chairman of the House Appropiations Committee either. He too hails from Kentucky and has brought over $26 billion of federal money back to his home state over the last ten years.

    Hal Rogers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Hal Rogers (R-Kentucky), a 16-term Congressmen who known for funneling taxpayer money for pet projects in his district – and far beyond. Roger’s has brought so much federal money to his hometown (Somerset, Kentucky; population 11,000) that it is known as Mr. Rogers’ Neighborhood. There’s a $52 million National Center for Hometown Security. The tiny airport that received $17 million in federal dollars but has so little traffic that the last commercial airline pulled out in February. And then there’s the Hal Rogers Parkway, which was formerly known as the Daniel Boone Parkway before being renaming for Kentucky’s Prince of Pork. Most recently, Rogers pushed through a $5 million dollar measure this year for conservation groups that work with endangered wild cats. It just so happens that one of the few groups eligible is the Namibia-based Cheetah Conservation Fund. Who works for them? The Congressman’s daughter. Over the past two years, Rogers has pushed through 135 earmarks at a cost of $246 million......
    Spending cuts? From these guys? Republicans Poised to Make


    Oh look, he gave money to his kin. too.
    Haven't read the whole thread, but hasn't anybody noticed that it was not McConnell that inserted the language re:funding amounts and this project, it was Feinstein [D Calif ] and Alexander [R Tenn]...

    "For one thing, McConnell apparently did not request that funding for the dam be included in the legislation. Rather, the request came from Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Dianne Feinstein of California. They are, respectively, the ranking member and the chairman of the relevant Senate Committee.

    Moreover, Alexander defended the funding. He argued that “according to the Army Corps of Engineers, 160 million taxpayer dollars will be wasted because of canceled contracts if this language is not included.”

    A Kentucky kickback? | Power Line


    While I wish McConnell would be a bit, well okay maybe a lot, more assertive for our causes, he is a very sly old guy, and while he most assuredly could have orchestrated this deal, it was readily admitted by Diane F that she was one of the culprits, not Mitch there. Now he did not turn it down, it should also be noted. Maybe that has already been said somewhere in the thread, sorry if I am stepping on anybody's post. Just didn't seem like that tidbit had come to light judging by the statements being made currently.


    In any event, all this effort to make Mitch look like you Dem's in the Corn Husker Kickback and newest Louisiana Purchase deals seems for naught, eh?
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    Re: $2 billion ‘kentucky kickback’ in budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Reality is that our politicians are money grubbing, power hungry people
    Yup. Which is why it makes sense to use money which was already going to be spent to be spent in a manner which prevents economic devastation.

    No one ever said that $2 billion would cause economic ruin
    If this $2b prevented the US from defaulting, and the $2b wasn't spent, then it could have. This is not a hard thing to understand.

    You support the status quo in Washington, fine, thats all you.
    I get the feeling you learned what "status quo" means recently and are intent on using it as often as you can in an attempt to make people think you are more intelligent. Of course, you clearly don't understand what it means, because it in no way represents my position.

    But dont bitch when they waste money. Just like you are supporting.
    No, I'm not supporting wasting money. What I'm supporting is understanding the reality of what we had. You don't seem to understand the reality of what we had.

    As far as managing money...Living on less than you earn and being debt free is a wonderful thing.
    Indeed it is and I never plan on doing any other, but I'm not a government and not one who is the foundation for economics across the world.

    Apparently you havent figured that out yet. Hopefully someday you will.
    Apparently you haven't figured out the difference between an individual and a government. Hopefully someday you will.

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