why do you demand that I provide proof for issues I don't raise
But you did.
It was YOU who raised the specter of the NET TAXPAYER.
your post 208
Romney's agenda catered to us net tax payers.
It was YOU who declared that the standard was they they pay more tax than average when asked how to identify what one was.
your 217
It is someone whose tax payments are higher than the average.
Why do you now fail to defend your own standard?
You have been beating this drum for a long time now and each and every time you are asked about it you NEVER have been able to provide any applicable standard so others can determine if they are a NET TAXPAYER or not. It has been that way for your posts for years now.
Really Turtle, if you cannot come up with an applicable standard that people can use - your term has no validity whatsoever and is merely a label used for partisan or political purposes which fails to stand up to any scrutiny, criticism or examination.
You should either work this out with an applicable formula so it actually means something or drop it now that we see what the real purpose of it is.
you now raise this question to me
do you deny that some people pay more taxes to the federal government than they use in terms of cost federal services?
I will be happy to examine the data... the statistics ... the facts ... the evidence ... should you ever present it. But your question raises other questions about the honesty of the way you frame your own inquiry:
- why are you limiting this to only federal taxes when "taxpayers" (your own term) pay taxes at various levels of government?
- why are you limiting this to only federal services when people use citizens from various levels of government - and sometimes those services dip into to several funding pots? Education is but one such example, road funding is another.
- how would a person determine how much value in services they are using?
- does this computation - should you ever provide one - to determine a NET TAXPAYER stay with you for life or does it change annually or perhaps monthly or perhaps weekly or even daily as ones situation in life changes?
- in the past you expressed eagerness to attach certain rights to the determination (should you even be able to make one) of the NET TAXPAYER such as voting rights. Are you still advocating that now?
You se Turtle, your question cannot be answered with any accuracy if these questions are not answered.