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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    What the article doesn't say is that all political parties are near record lows. Republicans and democrats fair better than the Tea Party because they are larger. Tea party members view the tea party favorably. Republicans are split between moderates and conservatives and liberals, being statist, have a more favorable view of democrats but no party has a favorable majority.

    When the punishment of Obamacare kicks in fully, opinion polls will move and elections are far enough away that this moment in history will soon be forgotten. What won't be forgotten is the money people will be forced to waste on insurance and deductibles that are worse than they had before Obamacare.
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    The GOP is dropping faster in the polls than Senator Larry Craig's pants in a Minnesota airport. And maybe the two incidents are distantly related. After years of GOP quantum weirdness, it appears the American people are finally taking notce.

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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more: Pew: Tea Party support at record low - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

    Its sad it took people so long to have a unfavorable view of these people. Hopefully they will never again play a roll in our politics. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Wishful thinking on your part.

    The poll isn't worth much, because the questionnaire doesn't bother to give a clear definition of the "Tea Party movement". For your average responder, "What is your opinion of the Tea Party?" sounds at the moment pretty much like "What is your opinion of those guys everybody is supposed to hate right now?" or maybe " What is your opinion of Ted Cruz?".

    If you ask, on the other hand: " What is your opinion of the local county and township level grassroots organization dedicated to promoting fiscal responsibility, constitutional rights and free market solutions?", or "What is your opinion of Rand Paul, Justin Amash and Thomas Massie?", or "What is your opinion of the Palin-and-Bachmann flying circus?", you will get three very different answers, will you not?

    I mean, my friends, tea party activists in New Jersey spend most of their energy on promoting and supporting Chris Christie. Because, whatever negative feelings some of them may have toward some things that he says, the guy is our best hope (in Jersey and perhaps beyond) for "fiscal responsibility and market solutions" to take hold. But if you listen to MSBC and Fox, Governor Christie is something nearly opposite to the tea party movement. No, he not.
    (And people working for a bit more professional and a bit less propagandistic outfits admit it freely: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/us...aser.html?_r=0)

    More importantly, the root causes of the tea party phenomenon are not going anywhere. The national debt keeps mounting, the corporate welfare flows as a mighty river, the entitlement programs remain unreformed, the dubious foreign engagements linger, and our civil liberties seem to be less and less assured with every not-even-shocking anymore front-page revelation.

    Why would the tea party movement go away, when all the reasons it is here are at least as urgent as they were in 2009 or 2011?
    Last edited by Cyrylek; 10-16-13 at 09:28 PM.

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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think it all depends on your definition of majority party. Democrats usually outnumber Republicans, so does that make them a majority party? Or is a majority party a party that has above 50% of the electorate identifying/associating themselves with that party? The Democratic Party was that from 1932 to 1960.
    I was referring to having 50 % or close to it of the registered electorate.

    One should ask who makes up the majority of America and which party do they identify with ?

    The Democrat party today doesn't represent the majority of Americans but just a bunch of small special interest groups and the majority of ethnic minorities.

    The rule of the Democrat Party is you support my radical minority special interest group agenda and I'll support your special interest group agenda no matter how insane it is.

    Nothing is what's best for America but what's best for one minority or special interest group. The majority are completely ignored.

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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    believing anything The Hill has to say about their enemies is the height of humor. Don't get out of the echo chamber much do ya?
    I agree. I detest things posted from political porn sites as well. But the naked truth remains:

    Tea Party

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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    another day, another far lefty wanting political opponents to disappear entirely.
    Or just have people wake up and not vote any of these morons in again.


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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    The tea party has been totally humiliated by Obama, who stood his ground. Can you imagine how the tea party leaders are gnashing their teeth at being pwned by a black president.
    Pulling race card as usual. Racism must be part of Progressivism.
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I seem to remember just a few years ago hearing that the Tea Party approval numbers were at an all time low. That the Tea party is no more. That the Tea Party has no power in Congress. That the Tea Party was just a short fad. That the Tea Party is history. That the Tea Party is extinct.

    That was a few years ago.
    That was pretty much true back then, as it is now.

    In 2010, republicans, and specifically tea party republicans, did pretty darned good in the election. That was because we were upset that Obama didn't just click his heels together and magically make things better.

    Wasn't too long after that election that we started realizing that the economy had become somewhat better, and we weren't going to double dip, and the spendulous bill wasn't going to ruin our economy. We started shifting back towards the left, and have been gradually moving towards the left, every month after we hear the job numbers.

    This most recent posturing by the tea party was most likely their last gasp for air. As soon as Jan 1st 2014 rolls around, and Obamacare is (almost) fully implemented, and our economy doesn't collapse, and our national debt doesn't double over night, and our health care system pretty much stays the same as it has been for decades, those few remaining tea party types will become totally apathetic to politics. You know how Fox News called the government shutdown a "slimdown"? Thats what we are going to see in the republican party. A slimdown, with the losses being mostly the tea party populist extremists.

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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    The tea party has been totally humiliated by Obama, who stood his ground. Can you imagine how the tea party leaders are gnashing their teeth at being pwned by a black president.

    well this is not true, the republican leadership of the senate and house........uncut the house tea party republicans.

    which they have uncut before, and will again, until people vote them out of office.

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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well this is not true, the republican leadership of the senate and house........uncut the house tea party republicans.

    which they have uncut before, and will again, until people vote them out of office.
    maybe the reason the republican leaders in the house and senate uncut the house tea party republicans, is because the house tea party republicans have little or no experience of government and do not even try to learn about what it takes to get policy implemented.

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