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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Those of us who oppose the incremental creep of the federal government don't particularly care if the shallow self involved democrat base like us or not. The republican party has been letting the democrats pick their candidates for far too long, it's no wonder they can't get enough votes from conservatives to win elections when they keep running moderates. Democrats pointng, laughing and ridiculing the Tea Party is a sure sign wenare under their skin. Those of you who shamefully gnore the long term consequences of your short term selfish wants will be left out of the solutions because your opinions are demonstratively wrong. Now go find some funny videos of cats or something, the grown ups have work to do and can't be bothered with your nonsense anymore.

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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Its sad it took people so long to have a unfavorable view of these people. Hopefully they will never again play a roll in our politics. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Even more are going to hate what the Tea Party stands for, when they are faced with the facts of life. Either they personally are going to have reduce their own spending (higher taxes) or they will get less government goodies (spending reduction).

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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Those of us who oppose the incremental creep of the federal government don't particularly care if the shallow self involved democrat base like us or not. The republican party has been letting the democrats pick their candidates for far too long, it's no wonder they can't get enough votes from conservatives to win elections when they keep running moderates. Democrats pointng, laughing and ridiculing the Tea Party is a sure sign wenare under their skin. Those of you who shamefully gnore the long term consequences of your short term selfish wants will be left out of the solutions because your opinions are demonstratively wrong. Now go find some funny videos of cats or something, the grown ups have work to do and can't be bothered with your nonsense anymore.
    ...just as the Democrats let the Republicans pick their candidates. Its the way conventional wisdom politics work. The Democratic party has been moving "right" for decades now. Its most liberal candidates of the past 40 years (Mondale and Dukakis) were soundly rejected by voters.

    To win an election you have to 1) capture the independents 2) turn out your base and 3) keep the other guy from turning out his base. The middle of the road candidates tend to help with all of these. Picking an extreme candidate tends to help only win election #2.... Tea party people do fine in congressional districts because they "constructed". They can not win in statewide elections unless the state is pretty solidly red and can not win a national election, as while they may turn out the base, they do not attract independents and encourage the other side to turn its base.

    Substantially all of the electorate are middle of the road. Extremists (be tea party players or the Dennis Kuicinch types) are not attractive candidates in an open election. At some point, the Republicans will learn that too much tea partying is not the way to get ahead.
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Its sad it took people so long to have a unfavorable view of these people. Hopefully they will never again play a roll in our politics. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    They still are much higher than those who openly admit their socialist. When they get down to the level of socialist, then maybe you can brag.
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    They still are much higher than those who openly admit their socialist. When they get down to the level of socialist, then maybe you can brag.
    Oooo ahhh good one!


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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    not at all. Romney's agenda catered to us net tax payers. Obama-those who want more stuff from government
    Net taxpayer? what is that? Am I a net taxpayer? How do I figure that out?
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Net taxpayer? what is that? Am I a net taxpayer? How do I figure that out?
    its easy for those who actually have open minds. It is someone whose tax payments are higher than the average. It also can refer to someone who pays more taxes than those in his socioeconomic cohort uses in federal services. someone in the top 2% of tax payers is almost certainly a net tax payer. Someone in the bottom 60% of tax payers is almost assuredly a net tax consumer.



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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its easy for those who actually have open minds. It is someone whose tax payments are higher than the average. It also can refer to someone who pays more taxes than those in his socioeconomic cohort uses in federal services. someone in the top 2% of tax payers is almost certainly a net tax payer. Someone in the bottom 60% of tax payers is almost assuredly a net tax consumer.
    So what figure is the average so we can start there?
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So what figure is the average so we can start there?
    doesn't matter. what is important is that some politicians pander to net tax consumers and figure those who consider themselves as such will vote for them. Other politicians try to win elections by being supported by those who figure they pay far more in taxes than they get in benefits (like me). It matters not if someone actually pays less in taxes than they get if they believe otherwise and vote for someone who will work to decrease the taxes on those who pay lots of taxes and government spending.



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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    doesn't matter.
    You just said it did in your own post when I directly asked you what a NET TAXPAYER was:

    It is someone whose tax payments are higher than the average.
    Your words.
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    Your claim.
    Your allegation.
    Your standard.

    You stated that a net taxpayer is someone whose tax payments are higher than the average.

    So what is the average figure that we all need to know to find out if we are net taxpayers?

    Its your standard - defend it.
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