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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    No, they DID commit political suicide.
    what exactly were the republicans hoping to gain from this? The state exchanges opened on October 1st, regardless of the government shutdown. Obamacare's funding is mandatory, a "entitlement, so no way it could make it to the chopping block.

    What did the republicans get for shutting down the government? absolutely nothing.

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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    So even if it damages the party in the long run you think they should of stuck it out? Obamacare will never be repealed under threat of shutdown or not raising the debt ceiling. For one......the principle...we live in a democracy...no one wants a norm where important/large pieces of legislation are overturned due to threats of shutdown or not raising the debt ceiling. Would you want a government where say...the Bush Tax cuts were repealed because a Democratic controlled house threatened to raise the debt ceiling?
    Considering a majority of Americans want ObamaCare gone, I think there would be some standing on this issue. Obama and the Dems refuse to listen to the people and instead say "oh they re-elected us because they want ObamaCare" which is quite frankly, retarded.
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    what exactly were the republicans hoping to gain from this? The state exchanges opened on October 1st, regardless of the government shutdown. Obamacare's funding is mandatory, a "entitlement, so no way it could make it to the chopping block.

    What did the republicans get for shutting down the government? absolutely nothing.
    Because they quit.
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Actually since the majority of Americans don't like Obamacare, it seems the majority of Americans have no power to destroy Obamacare.

    Just another example of the liberal minority telling the majority "Do as I say not as I do."

    BTW: What's with this ACA ?

    Are you referring to the "Air Combat Command"; "Airspace Control Authority"; "American Canine Association"; "American Chiropractic Association"; or the "American Canoe Association" ?
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Considering a majority of Americans want ObamaCare gone, I think there would be some standing on this issue. Obama and the Dems refuse to listen to the people and instead say "oh they re-elected us because they want ObamaCare" which is quite frankly, retarded.
    even if the people support the delay or repeal obamacare, i don't believe anyone would support shutting down the government as a way of forcing the issue.

    want to change Obamacare, win elections and do it via the legislative process, not resort to shock doctrine.

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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Considering a majority of Americans want ObamaCare gone, I think there would be some standing on this issue. Obama and the Dems refuse to listen to the people and instead say "oh they re-elected us because they want ObamaCare" which is quite frankly, retarded.
    Ok...let's go ahead and say the majority of Americans want Obamacare gone. From the polls I've seen the answer is actually more nuanced. Liberals hate Obamacare because they want Single Payer...Conservative hate it because they it's government overreach. Everyone else doesn't know what the hell is in it. They made it evident they don't hate Obamacare enough to shutdown the government or not raise the debt ceiling. In fact post shutdown the approvals for Obamacare have increased. Not only did the shutdown and threat of a debt ceiling not accomplish the goals it's actually been counter productive to achieving Republican goals.
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Considering a majority of Americans want ObamaCare gone, .
    Really?

    Polls consistently show that Americans aren’t happy with Obamacare. They think the law will make health care more expensive, and decrease its quality. But a new survey of 1,976 registered voters finds that only 33 percent believe that the health law should be repealed, delayed, or defunded. 29 percent believe that “Congress should make changes to improve the law,” 26 percent believe that “Congress should let the law take effect” and see what happens, and 12 percent believe that the law should be expanded. The bottom line? Voters are skeptical that Obamacare will live up to Democrats’ hype. But they also believe that it should be given a chance to succeed.

    New Poll: Only One-Third Of Americans Support Repealing, Defunding Or Delaying Obamacare - Forbes

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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Ok...let's go ahead and say the majority of Americans want Obamacare gone. From the polls I've seen the answer is actually more nuanced. Liberals hate Obamacare because they want Single Payer...Conservative hate it because they it's government overreach. Everyone else doesn't know what the hell is in it. They made it evident they don't hate Obamacare enough to shutdown the government or not raise the debt ceiling. In fact post shutdown the approvals for Obamacare have increased. Not only did the shutdown and threat of a debt ceiling not accomplish the goals it's actually been counter productive to achieving Republican goals.
    Is there even a post shutdown approval poll? That just happened last night.....
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Really?

    Polls consistently show that Americans aren’t happy with Obamacare. They think the law will make health care more expensive, and decrease its quality. But a new survey of 1,976 registered voters finds that only 33 percent believe that the health law should be repealed, delayed, or defunded. 29 percent believe that “Congress should make changes to improve the law,” 26 percent believe that “Congress should let the law take effect” and see what happens, and 12 percent believe that the law should be expanded. The bottom line? Voters are skeptical that Obamacare will live up to Democrats’ hype. But they also believe that it should be given a chance to succeed.

    New Poll: Only One-Third Of Americans Support Repealing, Defunding Or Delaying Obamacare - Forbes
    One poll versus how many others? Liberals......
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    Re: Pew: Tea Party support at record low

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Yeah, we can stick a fork in the Tea Party.

    Don't get me wrong, there are still enough dumb asses to support them and make a stink, just not enough of them to get a president elected. If they were a party of their own, instead of hijacking the GOP like they did, they would already be history.

    Only the GOP can put the Tea party where they belong by kicking them to the curb. And, as a matter of self-preservation, I suspect the GOP will do exactly that, sooner than later.

    The Dem's want the TP'er's to stay right where they are at. A tainted GOP practically guarantees the dems that they will win future elections.
    You're lying, and you know it. There hasn't been single good things said about the Tea Party around here by a lefty. You'd be praising them if you thought they were good for you, and encouraging their policies. You're scared to death of anyone that wants to change Washington.
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