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    House GOP leaders scramble to pass plan

    House GOP leaders scramble to pass plan - Jake Sherman and Burgess Everett and John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com

    House Republican leaders are moving forward with a bill Tuesday to lift the debt ceiling, reopen government and enact a host of other policies.

    The bill is expected to be marked up in the House Rules Committee late Tuesday afternoon, and will make its way to the floor Tuesday evening. Republican leadership has not formally whipped the bill, and they are not sure it will pass the House.

    If it does, Senate Democrats have made clear the measure has no chance on the other side of the Capitol. It’s unclear whether the two chambers will be able to agree on a budget deal before the U.S. exhausts its borrowing authority on Thursday.

    The decision to hold a vote comes after House GOP leaders scrambled all afternoon to rewrite the bill to satisfy the desires of different pockets of lawmakers.

    As a result, Republicans have dropped a provision that would have repealed a tax on medical devices. Earlier Tuesday, a senior GOP aide was touting it as a common-sense change that the White House and Democratic Senate should accept. They have also dropped a provision that would’ve required the Department of Health and Human Services to verify the income of individuals who receive subsidies under Obamacare.

    In addition, Republicans are including the so-called Vitter amendment, which cancels health-insurance subsidies for Capitol Hill staffers in addition to members of Congress, the president, vice president and the White House cabinet.

    Government funding will run until Dec. 15 — earlier Tuesday, GOP leaders proposed keeping government open until Jan. 15. The debt ceiling will be lifted until Feb. 7, and the legislation bars the Treasury Department from using extraordinary measures to extend the debt limit.
    if anyone wants to comment, be my guess.

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    The House will vote on a Republican proposal Tuesday evening to lift the debt limit until February, reopen the federal government until mid-December, and force everyone from the president to Capitol Hill staffers to pay more for their health insurance.

    It’s a drastic reversal for the House Republicans Conference, which once tried to force President Barack Obama and Democrats to agree to trillions of dollars in spending cuts as a price for raising the nation borrowing limit. This latest House GOP bill, offered just two days before a potentially catastrophic default by the U.S. government on its $16.7 trillion debt, contains virtually no spending cuts.
    Reading the above, and the rest of the article, I can't for the life of me figure out what the Democrat objection is in order to declare it DOA. The article does not say. It only says the Democrats declare it DOA.
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    Re: House GOP leaders scramble to pass plan

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    Reading the above, and the rest of the article, I can't for the life of me figure out what the Democrat objection is in order to declare it DOA. The article does not say. It only says the Democrats declare it DOA.
    they won't accept the Vitter amendment... they are sticking firmly by their position that Congress should get special treatment when it comes to Obamacare.

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    Re: House GOP leaders scramble to pass plan

    If the Senate gives in to the GOP blackmail on the debt ceiling, there will be political chaos for years to come. It will open the floodgates of any majority party in the House threatening to shut down the economy whenever they don't like some law or policy they can't overturn by legislation.

    So I support the Senate Democrats on this. If the GOP wants to negotiate legislation they lost on, then the Democrats must do the same and require tax hikes for the rich, gun control, and so forth.

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    they won't accept the Vitter amendment... they are sticking firmly by their position that Congress should get special treatment when it comes to Obamacare.
    it's not the congress, it is the congress's staff who get shafted by this amendment.

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    Reading the above, and the rest of the article, I can't for the life of me figure out what the Democrat objection is in order to declare it DOA. The article does not say. It only says the Democrats declare it DOA.
    here are some differances between the senate's plan and the house plan, according to the politico article

    There are key differences between the House and Senate bill. The Senate bill stiffens income verification requirements for individuals who receive Obamacare subsidies – though this provision is in flux in the Senate.

    But the Senate bill creates a bicameral negotiating committee, while the House’s bill does not.

    The House bill also stops Treasury from using extraordinary measures to prevent default, a provision that’s not in the Senate plan. The Senate’s bill also cancels a tax on insurance plan, in a concession to unions, which is not in the House’s bill.

    The House proposal immediately complicated the timeline in the Senate, where Republicans were supposed to hold a morning caucus for McConnell (R-Ky.) to brief his members on the Senate plan. That was delayed until the afternoon in the wake of news from the lower chamber.
    also the senate was caught off gaurd by this house proposal, considering that there were still negotiations going on between Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell.

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    Re: House GOP leaders scramble to pass plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    it's not the congress, it is the congress's staff who get shafted by this amendment.
    it's congresscritters too.... they are counting on their "employer contribution" to fund their plans.

    under their old insurance, they received a 75% "employer contribution"... and they still want it.
    problem is, the law they passed (Obamacare) clearly bars them from receiving this "employer contribution".... but they still want it.

    it's kinda funny really, Democrats are fighting tooth and nail to make sure they will not be bound by the rules set out in Obamacare.... rules they, themselves, passed....all on their lonesome.

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    Re: House GOP leaders scramble to pass plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    here are some differances between the senate's plan and the house plan, according to the politico article



    also the senate was caught off gaurd by this house proposal, considering that there were still negotiations going on between Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell.
    Most of those differences look to favor Democrat preferences, though. Is it because it doesn't include (Politico's term, not mine) the "concession to unions"?

    I don't see why negotiations between Reid and McConnell would matter -- it's a good bill or it isn't. If the House were to pass a bill giving the Democrats all of their wildest fantasies, I doubt very much they'd care if negotiations were going on in the Senate or not.

    Look, this thing needs to be solved. The Republicans, with this bill, appear to be providing pretty darn close to the "clean" CR the Democrats say they're waiting for. It opens the government, raises the debt ceiling, and staves off default, all while dropping the spending cuts they wanted, or defunding Obamacare. The objections look like quibbles to me, and procedural ones to boot. It's DOA in the Senate because of that?
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    Re: House GOP leaders scramble to pass plan

    apparently there won't be a house vote tonight at all.

    GOP leadership delayed its consideration of a bill to reopen government and lift the debt ceiling because it didn’t have the votes to squeeze the bill through the chamber, senior GOP sources said.

    Leadership put off a meeting of the House Rules Committee, which would’ve set up the procedure to bring the bill to the House floor on Tuesday night.

    It’s unclear what Speaker John Boehner’s team will do next. This could, once again, sideline the House in any deal to end the shutdown and raise the debt ceiling, kicking action over to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). The default deadline looms on Thursday and the government has now been closed for more than two weeks
    House vote delayed, chaos continues - POLITICO.com

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    Re: House GOP leaders scramble to pass plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    here are some differances between the senate's plan and the house plan, according to the politico article



    also the senate was caught off gaurd by this house proposal, considering that there were still negotiations going on between Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell.
    wow, Senate Democrat are trying to cancel the tax on cadillac plans as a gimme to Unions?... even after Obama said he wouldn't go for it?

    interesting.

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