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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    The "it's her fault" angle.
    Actually no, her parents.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Actually no, her parents.
    That's pretty damn stupid. #1) her father was killed in a car accident a few years ago. #2) Kids do things on their own. No parent has complete control over their children.

    #3) Why aren't the boys parents included in your accusation?

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Your ability to completely ignore what people post is astounding, and quite rude.
    I'm not ignoring at all that you've presumed the kid guilty and feel you have a greater grasp of the case than anyone actually dealing with it and that false allegations is not something that concerns you.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    The good news is that the public outcry about this case is forcing Missouri to take another look at the whole situation.

    Let a Grand Jury decide if there's "sufficient" evidence.
    Of course if they decide there isn't you'll say it's because they hate the girl and just want to let the football hero go.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So it makes no difference to you if the guy is guilty? Lol. Screw the guy even if he's innocent. I'm wondering why you (and the rest of your angst ridden buddies in this thread) are so ok with false allegations of rape. Actually, I'm really not wondering that. It is exactly consistent for you.
    Dude, read my post.

    What I am taking issue with here is the fact that the townspeople don't even really care to find out if it happened. They have no sense of decency at all towards the girl.

    It's not about assuming the guy is guilty, or treating him as if he is before that's known. It's about just being a decent person.

    As to false allegations, I'm not ok with them. But someone asked how often they happened, and I answered: rarely.

    Where have I said I'm "ok" with that? I am simply pointing out this baseless, oft-repeated meme about how women are so evil-willed and constantly accuse men of rape for no reason is just another attempt to devalue women when they do report.

    We shouldn't assume anything when a woman reports. We should simply treat her respectfully and humanely, investigate the allegations respectfully and humanely, and make a real good-faith effort to find out.

    If they are true, we should sentence appropriately and with the goal in mind of how to best protect society, not how to best stone the convicted. Keep in mind, I'm against the death penalty not just for all the practical reasons, but also because I don't think it becomes a developed nation to act like its criminals.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Dude, read my post.

    What I am taking issue with here is the fact that the townspeople don't even really care to find out if it happened. They have no sense of decency at all towards the girl.

    It's not about assuming the guy is guilty, or treating him as if he is before that's known. It's about just being a decent person.

    As to false allegations, I'm not ok with them. But someone asked how often they happened, and I answered: rarely.

    Where have I said I'm "ok" with that? I am simply pointing out this baseless, oft-repeated meme about how women are so evil-willed and constantly accuse men of rape for no reason is just another attempt to devalue women when they do report.

    We shouldn't assume anything when a woman reports. We should simply treat her respectfully and humanely, investigate the allegations respectfully and humanely, and make a real good-faith effort to find out.

    If they are true, we should sentence appropriately and with the goal in mind of how to best protect society, not how to best stone the convicted. Keep in mind, I'm against the death penalty not just for all the practical reasons, but also because I don't think it becomes a developed nation to act like its criminals.
    And if it's determined that the allegations are false, there should be no consequences at all for the person who made them up. Ok. Who cares about the impact of a false allegation on the falsely accused.

    It was investigated, you just think it wasn't because the kid isn't in prison right now.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Oh so there was no progressive rabid attacks on Bush when and after he was President? so who is being honest now?
    Dude, it's 2013. Why are you still whining about Bush to someone who mentioned nothing about him?

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Never, ever, move to a small town that you weren't born into and had grown up in. Those quaint townsfolk can be absolute monsters once the bullying starts.
    Been there, done that, in my teens. The gang mentality is quite strong with a lot of them.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    What I am taking issue with here is the fact that the townspeople don't even really care to find out if it happened. They have no sense of decency at all towards the girl.
    Again, you don't know this.

    And then you go on to say:

    It's not about assuming the guy is guilty, or treating him as if he is before that's known . . .

    As to false allegations, I'm not ok with them.
    But it's what you're doing, as against the whole town.
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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And if it's determined that the allegations are false, there should be no consequences at all for the person who made them up. Ok. Who cares about the impact of a false allegation on the falsely accused.

    It was investigated, you just think it wasn't because the kid isn't in prison right now.
    And I said that where?

    There are consequences for false claiming. They can be quite serious in the case of false sexual abuse claims -- including jail time.

    The investigation seems decent. It's everything that happened around it that is horrifying.

    Again, I have spent virtually no time at all discussing the actual case. I am discussing the social climate. Pay attention and try to keep up.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Again, you don't know this.

    And then you go on to say:

    But it's what you're doing, as against the whole town.
    This doesn't even make sense, honestly.

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