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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Is the suggestion then that Mays best friend lied in his testimony at the preliminary hearing? That makes no sense.
    I hesitate to contribute more to this thread considering I've been discussing the wrong case in several posts, but it could make sense if said testimony was offered as a way to get out of being indicted himself.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, after reading your "rest of the story," I'd be glad they did. However, if what you added in this thread were not the case, I would be furious. That doesn't mean, however, that I don't support jury nullification. I look at jury nullification as our last defense against bad law.
    You have to presume that "the rest of the story" was not present since that would be a basis for reasonable doubt. The acquittal would not be based on reasonable doubt but, rather, sympathy for the boy. Why would it make you furious (or do you only support nullification when you agree with it )?

    (BTW, you don't have to play along with this.)

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You have to presume that "the rest of the story" was not present since that would be a basis for reasonable doubt. The acquittal would not be based on reasonable doubt but, rather, sympathy for the boy. Why would it make you furious (or do you only support nullification when you agree with it )?

    (BTW, you don't have to play along with this.)
    Oh, I like playing with you X-Factor! Yo-o!! X-Factorrrrr!!

    It would make me furious because, with the facts you're allowing me to use, they look guilty as sin. I wouldn't agree with jury nullification in that case. But that doesn't mean I don't support jury nullification on its face. It's the jury's right.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh, I like playing with you X-Factor! Yo-o!! X-Factorrrrr!!

    It would make me furious because, with the facts you're allowing me to use, they look guilty as sin. I wouldn't agree with jury nullification in that case. But that doesn't mean I don't support jury nullification on its face. It's the jury's right.
    In all cases of jury nullification, the defendant has been proven guilty as sin but the jury decides, for whatever reason, to walk this particular guy. Heck, in this case, if the jurors acquitted based on the fact that he was a local football hero and their only hope for a state title, that is also nullification. To support nullification, you have to agree with acquitting people who have been actually proven guilty.

    Thanks for playing along. I may disagree with your conclusion but I appreciate your direct answers.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You're being wildly emotional. I'm not "justifying" anything. I'm being rational. You're accusing a whole town of "doing nothing" when you don't have any evidence to back up that claim. It's an assumption of yours, nothing more.

    If you can find things like "was not charged"; "declined to prosecute," etc., then you'd have something. But as far as I can tell, no such things are out there.
    We know exactly what the town did: ran them out.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    You mean like progressives blaming Bush after he is has been gone for 6 ****ing years?
    And that has what, exactly, to do with my post?

    All you've done is lower yourself to the same level. You can't even pretend to try to address this with some depth or honesty.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Actually as usual the answer should be in between. Allegations taken seriously yes, and no animosity should be shown to either party until after facts are known and best possible solution, all trials are complete.
    Both of y'alls thoughts here seem to present situations where animosity prior to knowledge has been shown mostly because of the idea of jumping the gun. One shows where a community jumped too quickly to condemn the alleged rapists, and this OP shows where a community maybe jumping too soon to the opposite. So any presumption, imo, simple stokes the potential that someone may be falsely condemned, be it the alleged victim or the allege rapist.
    I never argued for anything more than that.

    All I'm condemning is the actual animosity of the townspeople who ran her and her family out because they don't want to disrupt the football season. I haven't even discussed the accused. I'm talking about the people who live in that town, and what happened to their basic sense of humanity.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    If she was "14" then why was she hanging out with older highschoolers? Drinking? I think there is more to the story, there usually is.
    The "it's her fault" angle.
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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It's also a social sickness where people are guilty until proven innocent. How many women lie about rape for pitty or to ruin a man's life that they want revenge against? Even if someone isn't convicted that slander sticks with them and many will just call them as guilty.

    All rape allegations should be taken seriously, but they need to be kept at the level of allegation until the courts can rule on a verdict or if there is obviously clear evidence of the rape. This might not be just a case of flawed justice because the town wants to protect football guys.
    How many lie? Hardly any.

    Only 8% of rape cases are considered unverifiable. That includes not only false accusations, but also cases where there is simply no evidence (but they still may have happened).

    This is another misogynistic trope, this idea that wicked-hearted women lie in droves about being raped.

    But besides that, the post of mine you quoted has NOTHING to do with whether the accused actually raped her or not.

    My post was about what the hell is wrong with the townspeople.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    How many lie? Hardly any.

    Only 8% of rape cases are considered unverifiable. That includes not only false accusations, but also cases where there is simply no evidence (but they still may have happened).

    This is another misogynistic trope, this idea that wicked-hearted women lie in droves about being raped.

    But besides that, the post of mine you quoted has NOTHING to do with whether the accused actually raped her or not.

    My post was about what the hell is wrong with the townspeople.
    So it makes no difference to you if the guy is guilty? Lol. Screw the guy even if he's innocent. I'm wondering why you (and the rest of your angst ridden buddies in this thread) are so ok with false allegations of rape. Actually, I'm really not wondering that. It is exactly consistent for you.
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