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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    This appears to be a deflection, because that isn't exactly the double standard being bandied about.
    What is the double standard then?

    ?? That a drunk man can rape a drunken women and be found guilty of rape because the drunken woman is deemed not to be able to give consent. Yet the drunk man can be convicted of rape even though he's not in his right mind? I'm assuming THAT must be what's being bandied. Ha!

    I'm going to make an assumption that it would be very difficult for a woman to prove rape if they were both drunk. Sans witnesses, she's probably screwed. (Accident, I swear!) But that's not what this particular case is about, is it? She was unfreakin'conscious! And there were witnesses. There's no double standard here.

    And do I assume, then, that you find it wrong to convict someone of murder if they were drunk? Or vehicular homicide if they were drunk behind the wheel? There's no double standard. If there is, please to explain it to me.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Of course I read the whole damn thing.
    But for Charlie wanting to "knock a kid’s teeth out", those are not threats, and I specifically mentioned threats. Did you not read what I said?


    I have seen it reported that her daughter was called a skank, after charges were dropped, but that isn't a threat.
    Considering you underlined the "after the charges were dropped" line, implied her being called a skank was the worst of the harassment it's quite clear you didn't read the article or are trying to mislead people.

    Plus, "wanting" to knock someones teeth out is not a threat.

    Plus the communities behaviour qualifies as harassment, so there's that to investigate if "threats" don't do it for you.


    (4) Knowingly communicates with another person who is, or who purports to be, seventeen years of age or younger and in so doing and without good cause recklessly frightens, intimidates, or causes emotional distress to such other person; or

    (5) Knowingly makes repeated unwanted communication to another person; or

    (6) Without good cause engages in any other act with the purpose to frighten, intimidate, or cause emotional distress to another person, cause such person to be frightened, intimidated, or emotionally distressed, and such person's response to the act is one of a person of average sensibilities considering the age of such person.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    As has already been mentioned (though I'm not sure if mentioned to you) the video of that incident was erased after showing it to several people.



    There is no double standard. If a drunken man were raped while unconscious by several drunk women, they'd be guilty as well.
    In the statement that was posted earlier, the kid that made the video admitted he made it but I am not sure if he showed it to the pólice. I would asume he did, or they wouldn't have known aboutit.

    If the video was erased, that is another criminal charge they should pursue, destroying evidence.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    funny how she can't be held responsible for her actions because she is a minor and alcohol was involved, but he can be held responsible though he too is a minor and alcohol was involved.

    just more of that double standard where the male is always the perpetrator and the female is always the victim.


    not saying what the kid did was right or acceptible in any manner....just pointing out the double standard of assigning responsibility.

    It's like I said earlier, if two people get drunk and have sex...the next day she is a victim and he is a rapist.
    What "actions" should she be held responsible for?

    She was naked passed out on the ground.

    What positive action did she take to cause this?

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Bottom line is that is was determined that the evidence does not support such a charge.
    So that really means it wasn't.


    Rice said charges were dropped for lack of evidence, but he added, declining to go into the specifics, that information brought to his attention regarding what happened “before, during and after” the incident also played a role in his actions.

    “There wasn’t any prosecuting attorney that could take that case to trial,” he said.

    “It had to be dismissed. And it was.”

    The parent of one of the teens at the Barnett house that night was the only one to comment briefly to The Star: “Our boys deserve an apology, and they haven’t gotten it yet.”

    In a later interview, Rice called it a case of “incorrigible teenagers” drinking alcohol and having sex. “They were doing what they wanted to do, and there weren’t any consequences. And it’s reprehensible. But is it criminal? No.”
    How can anybody see it that way?

    I don't understand how any girl or woman that was unconcious can consent to having sex.

    She was physically moved to two other parties without her consent.

    I think, if the girl is strong enough, should take it to the feds. The local cops don't want to do anything about it, but the feds might.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What "actions" should she be held responsible for?

    She was naked passed out on the ground.

    What positive action did she take to cause this?
    oh...so she was just sitting there minding her own business and passed out for no reason?
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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    oh...so she was just sitting there minding her own business and passed out for no reason?
    So you are of the opinión that any woman who drinks should be raped? That is a pretty strong stance to take.

    You are saying her drinking was the positive action that caused her to be raped at 3 different parties.

    Is that what you are trying to say here?

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Let's just get this straight.

    Is there anyone on this thread arguing that, if a woman is unconscious and raped by a drunken man, he should not be prosecuted because he's drunk?

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Let's just get this straight.

    Is there anyone on this thread arguing that, if a woman is unconscious and raped by a drunken man, he should not be prosecuted because he's drunk?
    OscarB63 said if a woman drinks, she should be raped or can be. I would say yes.

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    re: Small Town Turns On Girl Who Was Allegedly Raped By HS Football Player [#303, #380]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    How can anybody see it that way?

    I don't understand how any girl or woman that was unconcious can consent to having sex.

    She was physically moved to two other parties without her consent.

    I think, if the girl is strong enough, should take it to the feds. The local cops don't want to do anything about it, but the feds might.
    The local cops DID want to do something about it. They thought the case was ironclad. It was the victim and her mother who apparently decided not to cooperate on the case, according to every account that I have read.
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