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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    That's why it was really stupid of the Republicans to pick this fight in the first place. They were always going to lose it.
    Who of rational mind could have actually predicted we would have two intractable immovable agenda driven, I do not care about America I am going to close down the other party even if it takes ruining our government to do so in what appears to almost be an attempted political homicide/suicide bomber plot...refusing any offers at all and with finger on the detonator.... who reasonably could predict that... it was like predicting someone would fly themselves and all else aboard airliners into buildings... who would do that?

    With all the folks right here that are actually suffering, feeling the pain, and with the only folks in sight offering any compromise, offering funding bills, offering to negotiate... well, I know folks on the other side are blinded by the O'so stupid One's mesmerizing lights... surely you can open your eyes a bit, look away from what is causing the blindness...
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    That's why it was really stupid of the Republicans to pick this fight in the first place. They were always going to lose it.
    generally I would agree. The last two weeks should have been Every Day Pounding Home The Latest Failure of the Obamacare Rollout, while using the Debt Ceiling as a sole negotiating tactic.

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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    generally I would agree. The last two weeks should have been Every Day Pounding Home The Latest Failure of the Obamacare Rollout, while using the Debt Ceiling as a sole negotiating tactic.
    No, it should have been the latter part, heading into the next election. That's more than sufficient. The Democrats utilized that strategy to win in 2006 in regards to the Iraq war. From 2005-2006, every day was a drumbeat of "the war is lost", with a break for attacking the administration over Katrina. I'm sure there will be plenty of Obama incompetence to harp on. There's just no good reason for the Republicans to make the next election about the Republicans.

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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Ayn Rand readers legitimately believe the world will be a better place once everybody is an asshole.
    Well, good of you to start the ball rolling.

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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Why should Obama back down on anything when it's clear the Republicans are folding and willing to do pretty much anything he says he wants?
    Republicans should send the Senate a bill that raises the debt ceiling for 3 months. Then send separate bills that pay for every other aspect of government except Obamacare and let them all sit on Harry Reids desk. If the non essential government workers stay home till the end of time, who cares?

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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    generally I would agree. The last two weeks should have been Every Day Pounding Home The Latest Failure of the Obamacare Rollout, while using the Debt Ceiling as a sole negotiating tactic.
    Yep, it would have been much smarter for them to wait and see what happens when Obamacare takes effect. If it's successful, you didn't waste a lot of time and political capital fighting it. And if it's not successful, you can say "I told you so" and have a lot more support to repeal/change it.
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Republicans should send the Senate a bill that raises the debt ceiling for 3 months. Then send separate bills that pay for every other aspect of government except Obamacare and let them all sit on Harry Reids desk. If the non essential government workers stay home till the end of time, who cares?
    The voters will care next November.
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Breitbart! Oh dear God.

    The real story is the GOP didn't offer to restart the government at all. It only offered to raise the debt ceiling for 6 weeks.

    In short, Breitbart's report is false. And you actualy repeated it!

    Perfect.

    White House says Obama has 'concerns' about latest GOP offer - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com


    Did the Big 0 offer a compromise in return?

    If I'm the Speaker, it's over. The door is shut and the President can watch his administration sink slowly into nothingness.
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'm not wondering who shut down the government. I know it is some ideological nut wads who take Ayn Rand to heart. Whoa six whole weeks in a nation that has been around 200+ years.


    The Dems have had since last Spring to come up with a budget and have not done the work to do so.

    The Chicks have come home to roost.
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yeah, they offered to raise the debt limit, but not to open the government. The GOP are children.


    They already provided bulls to open most of the government.

    If the functions of the government are desired by the Dems, why do these bills sit unvoted upon?
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