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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    The President has finally stood firm against the Repubs engaging in 'False Equivalency'..
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Obama has a 37% approval rating.
    1. According to one poll; every single other poll has him between 42 and 48.

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    2. So what.
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Nope, because people are becoming more free to live their lives as they are. Be they gay, black white purple or what ever equality under the law is coming to fruition.
    Well isn't that just peachy? It's also a silly outlook. Who makes your steel these days? Your electronics? Your shoes? We used to be a production oriented society which produced major quantities of such things. Now, with wages manipulated by foolish officials and regulations vomited forth in mountains by faceless bureaucrats, the Productives have largely fled these shores, just as Ayn Rand predicted.

    People can dart about like butterflies singing peons to their freedoms, real and imaginary, sublime and perverse, until that not too distant future in which they discover that they are wholly owned by our creditors, or by hostiles that we haven't the power or will to resist.
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I see no evidence that my previous remark shouldn't stand and/or be repeated.
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    Household budgets aren't simple arithmetic, corporations aren't, and yet you naively think the largest government with the longest and most deadly reach on the planet should reduce it's economic intelligence to the level of an elementary school student, apparently such as yourself. Hence I restate, your grip on reality must be frail, regardless of that mean ol' nasty ruthless Arithmetic that haunts you.
    No. I assert, quite rationally, that any entity that denies the nature of arithmetic is incompetent to approach more complex mathematics. We have a suicidal level of debt, and our arithmetically challenged pols wish to expand it far further. Barring deliberate malice, they can be capable of such acts only because they fail to grasp the most fundamental aspects of arithmetic.


    Seriously, what possible use can appeals to higher math be when one fails to grasp that if Johnny has $10, one cannot steal $12 from him in order to pay off one's friends? This sort of realization is alien to the Federal Government.
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    One must look, that one might see.


    No. I assert, quite rationally, that any entity that denies the nature of arithmetic is incompetent to approach more complex mathematics. We have a suicidal level of debt, and our arithmetically challenged pols wish to expand it far further. Barring deliberate malice, they can be capable of such acts only because they fail to grasp the most fundamental aspects of arithmetic.


    Seriously, what possible use can appeals to higher math be when one fails to grasp that if Johnny has $10, one cannot steal $12 from him in order to pay off one's friends? This sort of realization is alien to the Federal Government.
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'm not wondering who shut down the government. I know it is some ideological nut wads who take Ayn Rand to heart. Whoa six whole weeks in a nation that has been around 200+ years.
    They gave the President exactly what he wanted - a clean CR. The President came out and said "pass a clean CR, raise the debt limit, and I'll negotiate". They gave him an opportunity to put his money where his mouth was - and he backed off. Because his real intention here is to turn this to partisan advantage, and compromising when he can try to split the Republican party doesn't give him that.

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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    They gave the President exactly what he wanted - a clean CR. The President came out and said "pass a clean CR, raise the debt limit, and I'll negotiate". They gave him an opportunity to put his money where his mouth was - and he backed off. Because his real intention here is to turn this to partisan advantage, and compromising when he can try to split the Republican party doesn't give him that.
    A clean CR that includes opening the government back up. Which the republicans did not offer. Like I said, they are children who don't care about governance. People are suffering because of this shutdown and it needed to end last week.
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Nope, because people are becoming more free to live their lives as they are.
    That's fantastic to hear. So the size of the Federal Registrar, serving as a measure of state interference in our lives, is shrinking, then, is it?

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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    A clean CR that includes opening the government back up. Which the republicans did not offer.
    On the contrary - the deal did indeed open the government back up.

    Like I said, they are children who don't care about governance.
    Unlike Leader "why should I care if I can save a child" Reid and President "why should I sign a bill that would help people when doing so would take pressure off of Republicans" Obama?

    Republicans are the only ones thus far that have offered any compromises in the name of good governance. I'm not saying they're great, and I'm sure not saying they are operating on a desirable model, but if you want to start pointing fingers around that town in the intention of finding out which party is demonstrably more dedicated to good governance....

    People are suffering because of this shutdown and it needed to end last week.
    Hey, I'm one of them. I'm supposed to be moving my family back to the states - but we are stuck here overseas until this thing opens up. My ability to get a job and take care of my family is getting chipped away at day by day by this thing. It's already cost me money, and will cost me more before it's over. That's why I want the damn President to stop acting like a petulant child and compromise like an adult.

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