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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    GWB Doubled the debt from when Clinton had and Obama has doubled the debt from GWB. As for you and others being "vocal" about it, I call Bull****. Many of YOU and others voted for Bush AGAIN despite his actions. So, your being "vocal" did nothing and your ultimate support at the polls showed your support of Bush's spending. As I said before you and others complain about Dems spending, yet when a Republican does it you vote for him again. Typical hypocrites.


    There's always that old joke about the guy who had his wallet stolen and the thief was using his credit cards. However, the spending by the thief was less than by his wife, so he didn't report the theft.

    Bush did spend money like a sailor on the three day leave, but obama spends money like a pimp with three days to live.

    At least with Bush, the magnitude of the theft was not as bad. It's the difference of getting bit to death by pigs or eaten by lions. Either way you end up dead. With the pigs you get to watch the spectacle for a longer period before you die.
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    There's always that old joke about the guy who had his wallet stolen and the thief was using his credit cards. However, the spending by the thief was less than by his wife, so he didn't report the theft.

    Bush did spend money like a sailor on the three day leave, but obama spends money like a pimp with three days to live.

    At least with Bush, the magnitude of the theft was not as bad. It's the difference of getting bit to death by pigs or eaten by lions. Either way you end up dead. With the pigs you get to watch the spectacle for a longer period before you die.
    Point being the spending under Clinton was less than Bush. The majority of the right voted for Bush twice despite the increase in spending. The left is now making the excuses for Obama. Either way, BOTH sides continue to increase spending, increase the government size and scope with each administration. The fact is both sides are hypocritical and both sides are not to be trusted.

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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Point being the spending under Clinton was less than Bush. The majority of the right voted for Bush twice despite the increase in spending. The left is now making the excuses for Obama. Either way, BOTH sides continue to increase spending, increase the government size and scope with each administration. The fact is both sides are hypocritical and both sides are not to be trusted.
    Is it also fair to say the the majority of those increases are related to wars, defense, security for both Bush and Obama? It doesn't seem to me like entitlements are the problem, it seems to me we just may not need quite so much going to the IMC.
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    GWB Doubled the debt from when Clinton had and Obama has doubled the debt from GWB. As for you and others being "vocal" about it, I call Bull****. Many of YOU and others voted for Bush AGAIN despite his actions. So, your being "vocal" did nothing and your ultimate support at the polls showed your support of Bush's spending. As I said before you and others complain about Dems spending, yet when a Republican does it you vote for him again. Typical hypocrites.
    Hey, better check your blood pressure there, before you blow a gasket, dude. I can see punching that pedal to clear out all the clogged up carbon you surely got backed up in your thinking pipes, but you might just hurt yourself.

    Yep, you confirmed everything I said...GW in 8 years may have doubled Clinton's 8 years, sure. However, we got that with the boob in just 4...

    Whole 'nother level...


    And here's something you may not know about hypocrisy... its usually the one who cries this, accusing others first, that is the true hyocrite...

    So...I 'll just put it forward, wonder how many of you, including yourself, voted for Obama twice...huh? Who is that real hypocrite again???
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Point being the spending under Clinton was less than Bush. The majority of the right voted for Bush twice despite the increase in spending. The left is now making the excuses for Obama. Either way, BOTH sides continue to increase spending, increase the government size and scope with each administration. The fact is both sides are hypocritical and both sides are not to be trusted.


    That is true.

    The Republicans spend money in amounts that are hard to imagine.

    The Democrats spend money in amounts that are double that of the Republicans.

    From about 2000 to about 2012, the amount of money spent by the Feds annually doubled. I don't feel like they are dong a job that is twice as good or producing twice as much infrastructure improvement or helping to educate, heal or inspire twice as many people.

    From 2012 onward, the Sequester has been in force so as a population, we have that going for us. It will be in force to the end of the decade unless they do something to screw that up, too.

    Laughably, Obama proposed this as a poison pill that the Republicans would reject and they accepted it. Reality is priceless!

    In the chart below, the Debt increase under obama is understated by about 3 join on 4 Trillion dollars because it's 3 years old. There can't be anyone that is unimpressed by this.

    US_Public_Debt_Ceiling_1981-2010.jpg
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    That is true.

    The Republicans spend money in amounts that are hard to imagine.

    The Democrats spend money in amounts that are double that of the Republicans.

    From about 2000 to about 2012, the amount of money spent by the Feds annually doubled. I don't feel like they are dong a job that is twice as good or producing twice as much infrastructure improvement or helping to educate, heal or inspire twice as many people.

    From 2012 onward, the Sequester has been in force so as a population, we have that going for us. It will be in force to the end of the decade unless they do something to screw that up, too.

    Laughably, Obama proposed this as a poison pill that the Republicans would reject and they accepted it. Reality is priceless!
    An 800 billion dollar defense cut is anything but laughable to Republicans and there's more to come if they keep pushing. That cash cow is still too big.

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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    An 800 billion dollar defense cut is anything but laughable to Republicans and there's more to come if they keep pushing. That cash cow is still too big.



    I heard on NPR a few weeks back that 40% of all military spending is spent by the USA. The rest of the world splits the other 60%.

    We probably have a little room to draw back.

    Do we really need 11 full carrier task force groups when we have a guy in the White house that simple refuses to use them anyway? Could have used a plane or two in Benghazi.

    Does your chart work in percents when the 2009 deficit was about 4 times the size of the previous averages?
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    cantor continues to mastermiond the shutdown, as he did with the rule change on Oct. 1st..
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I heard on NPR a few weeks back that 40% of all military spending is spent by the USA. The rest of the world splits the other 60%.

    We probably have a little room to draw back.

    Do we really need 11 full carrier task force groups when we have a guy in the White house that simple refuses to use them anyway? Could have used a plane or two in Benghazi.

    Does your chart work in percents when the 2009 deficit was about 4 times the size of the previous averages?
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    Re: Obama Rejects Latest House GOP Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, conservatives were so grateful with Bush and his spending they voted for him twice. Many on the right, just as with many on the left, are such hypocrites. When a Republican is in charge the right excuses the spending with VOTES, while the left complains. Then when a Dem is in charge the left excuses the spending with VOTES, while the right complains.

    The conservatives that "say" they were against Bush's spending rewarded him with a second term by voting for him. The right side of the isle is no better than the left. Just two sides of the same coin. There are republicans AND conservatives that don't mind the government intervening and spending on big government as long as it is for what THEY want. They may say they don't like the spending, yet their votes when their guy is in charge says something COMPLETELY different.


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