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Russia To Debate Taking Children Away From Gay Parents[W:127]

I'm saying parents who produce offspring should take personal responsibility for their actions

Children deserve what's best for them

I believe Dr. Laura who is no shrinking violet said it best and I for one agree whole heartedly. "Any loving family is better than NO loving family." There are lots of children in THIS country waiting to be adopted and loved, it would be a shame if they couldn't be adopted out to a loving family just because they were not shall we say TYPICAL family.

While I agree that parents should be responsible for their children, and children should be raised by a mother and a father, reality has a nasty way of screwing things up. So I would perfectly fine with a gay couple adopting if they have no records of inappropriate contact. Because if they are willing to do it when no one else will, they ought to have the chance.
 
I believe Dr. Laura who is no shrinking violet said it best and I for one agree whole heartedly. "Any loving family is better than NO loving family." There are lots of children in THIS country waiting to be adopted and loved, it would be a shame if they couldn't be adopted out to a loving family just because they were not shall we say TYPICAL family.

While I agree that parents should be responsible for their children, and children should be raised by a mother and a father, reality has a nasty way of screwing things up. So I would perfectly fine with a gay couple adopting if they have no records of inappropriate contact. Because if they are willing to do it when no one else will, they ought to have the chance.

Gays are not suitable substitutes for parents

Russia is taking the right step culturally. They are playing the long game and will purge Marxist deviancy from it's culture slowly over time.
 
Gays are not suitable substitutes for parents

Does being gay somehow make you less of a person?

Russia is taking the right step culturally. They are they playing the long term game and will purge Marxist deviancy from it's culture slowly over time.

**** Russia. Russia is the last first-world country we should ever say is doing anything right. They're arresting people for being gay, beating people for being gay, firing people for being gay. Russia is being run by thugs.
 
Gays are not suitable substitutes for parents

Russia is taking the right step culturally. They are playing the long term game and will purge Marxist deviancy from it's culture slowly over time.

Really? So NO parents are better? You surely jest.
 
Gays are not suitable substitutes for parents

Russia is taking the right step culturally. They are playing the long game and will purge Marxist deviancy from it's culture slowly over time.

And this is nothing but personal opinion based on bias against gays. It has already been shown that same sex couples, homosexuals make just as good of parents as opposite sex couples, heterosexuals.
 
Really? So NO parents are better? You surely jest.

Who said NO parents are better? Try and reply without setting up a weak strawman. Thanks.

There has always been a system in place to address orphans. There has never been a demand for Gay "Parents" to fill a void.

Russia is looking at the situation long term. It's a culture problem. When the culture gets it's moral compass back, there won't be any need for deviant, patchwork, Frankenstein Gay "parents". Good for Russia. Gay Thumping has become a tiresome agenda.

And this is nothing but personal opinion based on bias against gays. It has already been shown that same sex couples, homosexuals make just as good of parents as opposite sex couples, heterosexuals.

I don't have a problem with gays. If they want to sodomize each other in their bedrooms, that's their business
 
Who said NO parents are better? Try and reply without setting up a weak strawman. Thanks.

There has always been a system in place to address orphans. There has never been a demand for Gay "Parents" to fill a void.

Russia is looking at the situation long term. It's a culture problem. When the culture gets it's moral compass back, there won't be any need for deviant, patchwork, Frankenstein Gay "parents". Good for Russia. Gay Thumping has become a tiresome agenda.

Bull. If people were more willing to adopt orphans, we wouldn't have thousands of children in our own country that are not being adopted, and end up living in either group homes or foster homes til they turn 18.

And gay bashing is becoming obsolete and those who continue to do it will look no different than those today who have an issue with interracial relationships, ignorant and worthy of contempt.
 
Who said NO parents are better? Try and reply without setting up a weak strawman. Thanks.

There has always been a system in place to address orphans. There has never been a demand for Gay "Parents" to fill a void.

Russia is looking at the situation long term. It's a culture problem. When the culture gets it's moral compass back, there won't be any need for deviant, patchwork, Frankenstein Gay "parents". Good for Russia. Gay Thumping has become a tiresome agenda.



I don't have a problem with gays. If they want to sodomize each other in their bedrooms, that's their business

Didn't know I was setting one up.

Are you talking about the current adoption system in our country? Its a sad joke. An orphanage is NOT a loving home. Nor is foster care. In the US there are approximately 115,000 children eligible for adoption. Three years is the average time to be adopted. 40% which go for more than 3 years before being adopted. Over 25,000 every year "age out" which is a nice way of saying they were NOT adopted. I would say from those numbers that yes there is in fact a very LARGE need for families to adopt children.

So since you never answered my legitimate question, I would appreciate an answer now. 25,000 kids very year age out with no one adopting them. Is it better they have a loving gay family than none at all? Not a straw man or a gotcha question, just a simple one asking for your honest opinion.
 
Didn't know I was setting one up.

Are you talking about the current adoption system in our country? Its a sad joke. An orphanage is NOT a loving home. Nor is foster care. In the US there are approximately 115,000 children eligible for adoption. Three years is the average time to be adopted. 40% which go for more than 3 years before being adopted. Over 25,000 every year "age out" which is a nice way of saying they were NOT adopted. I would say from those numbers that yes there is in fact a very LARGE need for families to adopt children.

So since you never answered my legitimate question, I would appreciate an answer now. 25,000 kids very year age out with no one adopting them. Is it better they have a loving gay family than none at all? Not a straw man or a gotcha question, just a simple one asking for your honest opinion.

Nothing about what you posted requires Gay "Parents"

It's a cultural and moral problem. Russia is taking steps to address it long term.

Good for them
 
Nothing about what you posted requires Gay "Parents"

It's a cultural and moral problem. Russia is taking steps to address it long term.

Good for them

you support the authoritarian tactics used by Russia, and yet you criticize obama for doing the exact same thing?
 
Bull. If people were more willing to adopt orphans, we wouldn't have thousands of children in our own country that are not being adopted, and end up living in either group homes or foster homes til they turn 18.

And gay bashing is becoming obsolete and those who continue to do it will look no different than those today who have an issue with interracial relationships, ignorant and worthy of contempt.

Just so you know I am with Bronson on this point, that a mother and father in a loving family is superior to a gay family all things being equal. I would also say that if it were true that all children were adopted and there was competition to adopt children the I would discriminate actively against a gay couple adopting. The only reason I am for it is like I said before, ANY loving family is better than none.
 
Nothing about what you posted requires Gay "Parents"

It's a cultural and moral problem. Russia is taking steps to address it long term.

Good for them

I don't care about Russia right now they are sovereign and can do as they please.

What I asked and you failed to answer was is a loving gay family better than no family at all? My curiosity is now piqued as this is the third time I have asked and the second time you have failed to answer.
 
I don't care about Russia right now they are sovereign and can do as they please.

What I asked and you failed to answer was is a loving gay family better than no family at all? My curiosity is now piqued as this is the third time I have asked and the second time you have failed to answer.

This thread is about Russia

Why are you trying to go off topic
 
They may not care. Russia spent most of a century oppressing the **** out of their entire population despite the condemnation of the entire West.


Well they sure won't care when they see the west become complicit by taking partake in the nauseating spectacle in sochi in a few months. I don't want to hear any bitching about this law from anyone who thinks the olympics shouldn't have been moved, especially when we all knew the law was coming.
 
This thread is about Russia

Why are you trying to go off topic

Not trying to go off topic I am on an interesting, to me at least, tangent.

Three dodges. Its apparent you don't wish to say why it is a gay couple serving as parents when no others are available are unfit. Therefor I must presume some sort of bias or prejudice on your part toward them until you say otherwise. My curiosity remains unquenched. Oh well.
 
Well they sure won't care when they see the west become complicit by taking partake in the nauseating spectacle in sochi in a few months. I don't want to hear any bitching about this law from anyone who thinks the olympics shouldn't have been moved, especially when we all knew the law was coming.

The Olympics only gets involved with oppressive local laws if they effect the games or athletes. The only reason the Russia policies towards homosexuality became an issue is because they moronically announced they'd enforce them against the visiting athletes. China and the U.S. were doing far worse when they hosted the games, but they left the tourists alone.
 
Not trying to go off topic I am on an interesting, to me at least, tangent.

Three dodges. Its apparent you don't wish to say why it is a gay couple serving as parents when no others are available are unfit. Therefor I must presume some sort of bias or prejudice on your part toward them until you say otherwise. My curiosity remains unquenched. Oh well.

Bias or prejudice against what? Russia believes children shouldn't be forced to live with 2 men that use each others bodies for sodomy and masturbation.

If sodomites want to put things in filthy bacteria filled holes in their bedrooms, more power to them.

I agree with Russia's long term strategy which is a cultural change. Good for them.
 
Children deserve their real parents

Not a Frankenstein Marxist experiment
Oh look, it's Bryan Fischer.
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The Olympics only gets involved with oppressive local laws if they effect the games or athletes. The only reason the Russia policies towards homosexuality became an issue is because they moronically announced they'd enforce them against the visiting athletes. China and the U.S. were doing far worse when they hosted the games, but they left the tourists alone.

They aren't going to leave the tourists alone in russia, are you kidding? If any mentions anything gay related, they may be arrested, and if they even "appear" to be gay, they can be deported. As for the athletes, we'll see about that, but i sure wouldn't take their word for it. But beyond that, it is just like the treatment of jews leading up to the berlin olympics, giving consent by holding the games there.
 
I don't care about Russia right now they are sovereign and can do as they please.

What I asked and you failed to answer was is a loving gay family better than no family at all? My curiosity is now piqued as this is the third time I have asked and the second time you have failed to answer.
No. Those poor children are going to be bullied in school.
 
They aren't going to leave the tourists alone in russia, are you kidding? If any mentions anything gay related, they may be arrested, and if they even "appear" to be gay, they can be deported. As for the athletes, we'll see about that, but i sure wouldn't take their word for it. But beyond that, it is just like the treatment of jews leading up to the berlin olympics, giving consent by holding the games there.

The German policy towards Jews in 1936 was no worse than imperialism or segregation at that time. The IOC only intervened when Hitler tried to ban blacks and Jew from the games, and the made him reverse his decision. There are not that many nations who don't commit some human rights violation of one type or another. Were the games in Salt Lake City condoning people being tortured in Gitmo?
 
The German policy towards Jews in 1936 was no worse than

No worse than what? The entire world hated Jews. Go research the New York reaction to the MS ST Louis.
 
Gays are not suitable substitutes for parents

What do you mean "substitutes"? Gay adoption is illegal in Russia. Therefore, the only children Russian gays are raising are their own. They are not substitutes, they are the biological parents of these children.

Russia is taking the right step culturally. They are playing the long game and will purge Marxist deviancy from it's culture slowly over time.

What does this have to do with Marxism? And no, taking children away from their parents for no valid reason whatsoever is never the right step to take. Being gay does not automatically make a man or a woman a bad parent, just like being straight doesn't automatically make you a good parent.
 
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