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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown
    John McCain is correct.
    He knows that the American people know this and he wants to affirm what they already know.
    John doesn't want to be associated with the crazy assholes in his party.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We already know the tea party is responsible. That was clear from the beginning; common knowledge. So McCain isn't saying anything new.

    McCain sounds like he's trying to criticize the tea party for the government shut down, but that doesn't make sense since shutting down the government was the right thing to do. The tea party did nothing wrong to then be critisized for it. McCain is trying to chastise people who do the right thing.

    Last I knew, McCain was a tea party member, even ran for POTUS with a tea party VP. Pot meet kettle.
    McCain is anything but TEA party material and quite frankly never has been. Why he chose Sara Palin is unknown to all but him.
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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Nice to see the House uninvolved in these 'adult' Senate conversations..
    It took Sen.Collins a while to clean up this stinky turd blossom the House laid..
    Serious problems still remain but her bill IS the structure..
    Senate Repubs are peeved at the Dems for reviving SQ #s along with the length of the debt agreement..
    They're now using the 'Dems can't take yes for an answer' meme, knowing they still can't control the House.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    John McCain is correct.
    He knows that the American people know this and he wants to affirm what they already know.
    John doesn't want to be associated with the crazy assholes in his party.
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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    McCain is anything but TEA party material and quite frankly never has been. Why he chose Sara Palin is unknown to all but him.
    If I remember correctly all of his picks kept getting sunk by the various gop power brokers. And right around this time Palin hit some national attention with some very competent handling of public oil contracts and a corruption investigations of the Alaskan old boy network. So it was sort of a last minute hail mary that didn't pay off.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    That's what I was about to post. Calling McCain a RINO is silly. He's been a GOP stalwart for a long, long time, and he got the GOP nomination for President. The Republican Party looked at the entire nation to decide who best represented the party, and they chose him. His is the Republican Party. Or at least he is what it was.
    I find it humorous sometimes to see the lunatic fringe of the GOP determine who is and isn't a Republican. If the lunatic fringe are the true soul of the GOP, as opposed to just useful idiots who can be counted on to vote R because it's not D, why are all of the GOP presidential candidates "RINOs"? McCain was a "RINO." Romney was a "RINO." Bush was certainly no Tea Party type, they hated him and he WON TWO ELECTIONS.

    The answer is simple. If a Tea Party type got the GOP presidential nominee, they would get destroyed in a general election, Mondale-style. It wouldn't just be a loss, it would be Hiroshima-level destruction. The vast majority of voters are hip to the Tea Party game, and they don't like it.

    The Tea Partiers are the RINOs. They should mostly be called "nutbars who nobody listens to."
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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    If I remember correctly all of his picks kept getting sunk by the various gop power brokers. And right around this time Palin hit some national attention with some very competent handling of public oil contracts and a corruption investigations of the Alaskan old boy network. So it was sort of a last minute hail mary that didn't pay off.
    I hadn't heard this. I just assumed McCain made the profound and unforgiveable mistake of inflicting Palin on American politics. If it was he rightwing cohorts, then I feel better about McCain already (though one conversation with the tea party harpy should have convinced him she shouldn't have been allowed to be within a 1000 miles of his campaign).

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I find it humorous sometimes to see the lunatic fringe of the GOP determine who is and isn't a Republican. If the lunatic fringe are the true soul of the GOP, as opposed to just useful idiots who can be counted on to vote R because it's not D, why are all of the GOP presidential candidates "RINOs"? McCain was a "RINO." Romney was a "RINO." Bush was certainly no Tea Party type, they hated him and he WON TWO ELECTIONS.

    The answer is simple. If a Tea Party type got the GOP presidential nominee, they would get destroyed in a general election, Mondale-style. It wouldn't just be a loss, it would be Hiroshima-level destruction. The vast majority of voters are hip to the Tea Party game, and they don't like it.

    The Tea Partiers are the RINOs. They should mostly be called "nutbars who nobody listens to."
    My conclusion is that the tea party is, in fact, the real heart and soul of the GOP and the conservative movement. Its knownothingism, its xenophobia and scapegoating is the real inspiration for conservative politics, and always has been. But with the demographic extinction of conservatism as a political force drawing nigh, conservatism has gone fundamentalists. That's always the case when a movement is losing and history is leaving it behind. It's why Moslem and Christian fundamentalism is on the rise -- they're losing out to modernization. Same with conservatism. The fundamentalism of the tea party will prevail against the remaining sane Republicans, and hasten the de-evolution of the GOP into a marginal, regional party.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I hadn't heard this. I just assumed McCain made the profound and unforgiveable mistake of inflicting Palin on American politics. If it was he rightwing cohorts, then I feel better about McCain already (though one conversation with the tea party harpy should have convinced him she shouldn't have been allowed to be within a 1000 miles of his campaign).

    His campaign apparently found out about here the same way I did, from a report a PBS news show (now defunked called "now") did on here. Which was very positive and cast her as a very pragmatic moderate. And I think at that point, there options were so widdled down that they just needed to go with someone that wasn't completely insane

    though it didn't seem to work out as planned ...

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    McCain is anything but TEA party material and quite frankly never has been. Why he chose Sara Palin is unknown to all but him.
    I read that the party told him to do it. Like, with no options.
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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    PBS had a two show during his early campaign that followed him on the campaign trail. He didn't show a lot of depth in his decision making. Pretty sure he just went on having heard good things about her from press she'd gotten. He wanted someone young to counter Obama and being female was the kicker.

    Most of the show was, listen to advisors, nap, kiss a crying baby, nap, read a speech, nap and top it all off with a really good nap.

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