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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    We already know the tea party is responsible. That was clear from the beginning; common knowledge. So McCain isn't saying anything new.

    McCain sounds like he's trying to criticize the tea party for the government shut down, but that doesn't make sense since shutting down the government was the right thing to do. The tea party did nothing wrong to then be critisized for it. McCain is trying to chastise people who do the right thing.

    Last I knew, McCain was a tea party member, even ran for POTUS with a tea party VP. Pot meet kettle.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We already know the tea party is responsible. That was clear from the beginning; common knowledge. So McCain isn't saying anything new.

    McCain sounds like he's trying to criticize the tea party for the government shut down, but that doesn't make sense since shutting down the government was the right thing to do. The tea party did nothing wrong to then be critisized for it. McCain is trying to chastise people who do the right thing.

    Last I knew, McCain was a tea party member, even ran for POTUS with a tea party VP. Pot meet kettle.
    McCain was never tea party. McCain is more liberal than 95% of Republicans.
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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'm curious as to precisely which of Obama's policies Mr. Smiley thinks are keeping the black man down.
    Social welfare, food stamps and other numerous subsidies that keep blacks dependent on government...

    In reality it's more lucrative for a black to stay dependent on government than it is for a black to start from the bottom at a minimum wage job and progressively work their way up from there...

    The simple fact that the government pays per kid when you're on welfare doesn't help either - so all these kids being born in the projects are nothing more than "money babies" - or born to a mother that just wants a few extra bucks... The simple fact that the government pays maximum welfare benefits to single parent families doesn't help either...

    That's what the government want's anyways - they want blacks poor - they want people to be government dependent because THAT is what keeps these asshole progressives in power... Their campaign slogans should read "vote for me if you want a raise in free subsidies er free money."

    What progress have democrats or progressives made with the poor (of any race) in urban communities considering they've had a stronghold on these communities for 60-70 years in some places like Chicago, Detroit etc?

    No, these supposed "black leaders" the representatives of their communities do nothing more than throw free government handouts to the people, tell them it's not their fault they're poor while they use their position as a elected official to get rich....

    See what Kwame Kilpatrick did to get a 28 year prison sentence...

    Kwame Kilpatrick, former Detroit mayor, sentenced to 28 years in prison for corruption - CBS News

    Oh and BTW, Obama endorsed this criminal calling him a "good friend" and "face of the future for Detroit."

    That's called oppressing your community for personal gain...

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    McCain was never tea party. McCain is more liberal than 95% of Republicans.
    You're absolutely right...

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    What's the difference? Seriously.
    Tea Partiers are, by and large, socially conservative... Libertarians are, by and large socially liberal.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Tea Partiers are, by and large, socially conservative... Libertarians are, by and large socially liberal.
    Not really, no difference between the Tea Party and Libertarians.... I think there a few progressive republicans that have jumped on the Tea Party bandwagon just because they're opposed to or even hate Obama but for the most part the Tea Party is pretty much inline with Libertarian philosophy..

    The Tea Party is nothing more than a limited government movement - which is also a philosophy Libertarians embrace....

    The Libertarian party has been growing everyday thanks to the Tea Party being a bridge between the Republicans and the Libertarians -- Finally republicans (and democrats) are starting to see that traditional Libertarians/classical liberals are NOT a bunch of anarchists but just people who want limited government and who truly embrace civil liberties and the Bill of Rights.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    I love this. If you criticize the Tea Party it means you are too liberal. In a sense, the Tea Party is like a black president, if you don't like it then it is not due to its policies but because there is something wrong with you (liberal/racist). It is immune to criticism.
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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I hope that was sarcasm...

    The guy's DOJ is like a black version of the KKK - they just believe the "pen" is mightier than the "noose"...
    No, it wasn't sarcasm. it was an explanation on why Tavis Smiley doesn't like Obama. And I'm figuring you lack the ability to differentiate that explanation from my personal views, which I didn't express

    Basically: potato.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I love this. If you criticize the Tea Party it means you are too liberal. In a sense, the Tea Party is like a black president, if you don't like it then it is not due to its policies but because there is something wrong with you (liberal/racist). It is immune to criticism.
    While I'm not a fan of the kneejerk nature of the reaction many are having over McCain's criticism, the reaction is still based on the perceived content of it. So I am unsure you can compare it to the assumption that one is racist for simply not liking Obama's policy

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Not really, no difference between the Tea Party and Libertarians.... I think there a few progressive republicans that have jumped on the Tea Party bandwagon just because they're opposed to or even hate Obama but for the most part the Tea Party is pretty much inline with Libertarian philosophy..

    The Tea Party is nothing more than a limited government movement - which is also a philosophy Libertarians embrace....

    The Libertarian party has been growing everyday thanks to the Tea Party being a bridge between the Republicans and the Libertarians -- Finally republicans (and democrats) are starting to see that traditional Libertarians/classical liberals are NOT a bunch of anarchists but just people who want limited government and who truly embrace civil liberties and the Bill of Rights.
    Libertarians see eye to eye with TPers on certain things ... we also see eye to eye with liberals on certain things... there's even a lil shared vision with Socialists thrown in the mix.

    seeing eye to eye on certain things with others is not the same as saying there is no difference between them.

    for instance,Republicans are overwhelmingly opposed to abortion in any case ( 63% think it should be illegal).... the same poll asked that question of those whom are Tea Partiers.. 88% think it should be illegal in all cases.
    abortion is most certainly a social issue... and TPers are most certainly more conservative on that issue that Libertarians.
    the drug war is another social issue where TPers take a conservative stance.

    anyways, Tea Partiers are just conservative Republicans who got tired of fiscal mismanagement in the federal government and decided to form a movement.
    while they do see eye to eye with Libertarians on a few issues, they are not Libertarians.... they are, by and large, just plain old conservative republicans

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